10 cents a bottle fam, gotta hop in the Tahoe to the bottle processing center across the state

stop hating on the south it's warm af down there

It is reddit, isn't it? (It was a genuine question!!)

I feel for you. Especially since landlords want soooo much money upfront nowadays...

Most people do not have an issue with providing more affordable housing. There is plenty of space available to build or convert housing in areas that can support this type of housing.

Building out in small towns is just idiotic. Lower income people are best located in areas where you don’t need a car and closer to services and agencies they would likely need such as medical care. To be cost effective they are also likely going to be high density housing such as apartments and high rises.

Why is there not enough then? For a developer there is just not enough money in it. Lots of red tape and as a developer you want to build something you can likely sell at a later date.

To me it makes the most sense for the government to hire a builder to construct the housing on land already owned by the state. So the land is free. Then to hire a private property management company to run it. In the end this should not cost much if anything for taxpayers.

We don’t see this as our politicians are really only interested in talk and not into problem solving. They just like to point fingers.

Grew up and lived in Waterford. Moved away 23 years ago. Moving back in a year or 2. I miss the shoreline. The air is very refreshing. Even if you live several miles inland one can get a sea breeze.

Downside is insurance is going to cost more due to the increased risk of hurricane damage.

The woods sounds great, until you need a 50’ setback for your well, a 50’ set back around your septic and an area for septic reserve and all the sudden you’re back to 2 and 3 acre lots

Your there now

Rodenticides are pretty awful for wild animals. They've also been linked to devastating mange outbreaks in wild cats, such as bobcats, in other states.

Omg, I love Foxon Park! In the South, Mexican Coke is about the best we can do. When I took the family up there for a visit a few years ago, we stocked up on Foxon Park sodas from Stop n Shop on the first day so we could try a new flavor every night..

  Also, snow melts a lot faster due to the salt air. 

I’ve lived along the shore all of my life and have never ever heard that before. It’s possible, I suppose, although I don’t know about “a lot faster”. So far I’ve found nothing at all about it online.

TIL: our state motto is "He who transplanted sustains." It's in Latin on the flag. Since I transplanted myself from Illinois 38 years ago, and I'm still here, I guess it's true!

P.s. Congrats on the move. Sorry about the taxes.

What? No Hosmer Mountain or Foxon Park? And you call yourself a nutmegger! Lol welcome!

Any step up from Florida is still a step up. Florida and Texas are on my permanent no-go list.

Just leave the crappy politics and conservative mindset behind.

We're leaving this summer, although sadly can't leave the region for a while longer. It is definitely no longer safe here for people who are too different from the imposed and enforced "Christian" norm.

We are glad to have you!!!

Wrote a whole thing before remembering this is reddit. Less unsafe than most, but leaving would be so vastly expensive that It's a hurdle rn.

If you have two queer kids, please get out of Florida. I'm a gay man and I will never step foot in that state again.

However small, there is now a nonzero chance that I'll get taken to a death camp if I ever go there.

Every accusation they make is a confession.

"The left" doesn't want to control people. "The right" operates in a zero-sum mode where if someone gets something, surely that must mean the "other side" is getting fucked over.

Meanwhile, the culture bullshit is to distract us from the fact that people are hungry and homeless, medical care is a fucking joke, and corporate profits are running rampant.

I'm only half-kidding when I say I enjoy the experience of only being able to travel in three cardinal directions.

It’s Connnnnnnnnneeeecctttttttttticccuuttttttt

Well, in addition to u/GatekeeperTDS's pithy list, I'll add my perspective as someone who grew up in Connecticut, went to college in Texas, and now lives in Florida. Although let me say that I recognize the grass is always greener, etc., and also pretty strongly believe that every state/region has positives and negatives.

• There's the way the states are run, especially the recent turn toward culture-war issues above all else, including the economic well-being of their residents. And this isn't new. Texas still hasn't expanded Medicaid despite having a huge number of people who can't afford health insurance. As a parent with two queer kids, this is a problem that has just gotten worse and worse across the region, even in states not run by likelt 2024 presidential candidates. Meanwhile, the governments are so beholden to their market-fundamentalist ideology that they make life more expensive for all but the super-rich by jacking up sales and property taxes to balance the budget rather than introduce progressive income and corporate taxes. Meanwhile, infrastructure falls apart, as evidenced by Florida's failing home insurance market and Texas's inability to keep residents from freezing to death during cold weather.
• And then there's the people. Lots of great humans live in Texas and Florida, and of course part of what makes the leadership so reactionary is their fear of losing power as the populace diversifies and liberalizes. But those who support these politicians are genuinely scary – pickup and gun culture, giant Trump flags (and worse – we lived down the street from someone flying hardcore militia flags), and during COVID, an uncritical embrace of every selfish, individualistic instinct over any effort to care for their community, which fed directly into longtime efforts to undermine public education by underpaying and demonizing teachers, professors, and critical thinking in general, never mind public health and science more generally.

In short, there's something wrong here, and as someone who studies history and religion for a living, I can say that something is a regionwide refusal to reckon with the atrocities it committed for centuries against Black people. Almost all of the ideological obsessions of the region – idolatries, if you're Christian – can be traced back to the patterns of thought that justified slavery and segregation: the irrational suspicion of government; the pervasive, fear-based embrace of guns; the distrust of public education; the obsession with perceived sexual deviance; the nostalgia for a rural "true America" that never existed; the rejection of so-called "elites," which is code for scientists, public health authorities, and university professors; and and of course the stultifying Christian fundamentalism. All of it was incredibly useful when defending slavery from the "atheistic," industrialized North, and then in resisting and eventually outlasting the effort to force them to treat Black people equally during Reconstruction. Even if none of the people currently alive would accept the overt arguments against racial equality that initially spawned these ideologies, they continue to embrace them because doing so is easier than accepting the ugly reality of their cherished traditions.

All regions of the country have to deal with their demons; Connecticut in particular was the site of numerous massacres of Indigenous people, especially the brutal Pequot War. But that particular sin/crime/stain is more or less universal to the entire country. The modern day South is what happens when a region's people collectively decide not to confront their "peculiar institution" for centuries and centuries; for anyone no longer willing to go along with the collective amnesia, and the ideological and political fictions that uphold it, it's an oppressive atmosphere. For those who are anything but cisgender, hetereosexual, white, male, and upper middle class or richer, it is literally oppressive.

The funny part is those states that love to scream the hatred for big government battle cry are the ones who actually love it. They are the ones enacting all the laws that tread upon people's personal lives.

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