>There's hardly anything better to spend money on, right now

Lol there are endless things to better spend it on if your own population is suffering deprivation. But America is a rich it can fund both. But that doesn't mean defending Ukraine is more important than averting the a suffering of your own people due to your own actions.

That is the same thing. The mainstream of culture, discourse and politics is driven by the owners.

People need to remember that back during the labour movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries the workers and unions had to start their own newspapers to combat the propaganda of the bosses.

After WW2 people forgot that its a class struggle and by Watergate people are celebrating a media that was more concerned with documenting the attacks by one political elite on another than the enormous class war waged on the new left and black power and anti war and American Indian movement by the American intelligence community ie. COINTELPRO.

It's only become worse but decades ago Noam Chomsky wrote and lectured about this extensively.

U guys still watching TV?

When bribery is legal and government regulation is a revolving door between CEOs and "regulators", we get this cancerous corrupt system.

Century of the Self is also a good watch regarding the birth of advertising in the west.

Well said. That was exactly the point I was trying to get across. The sad reality is that leftist media wouldn't be popular because it wouldn't be all doom and gloom. Have you watched the news lately? Turns out everything is bad everywhere, except for here, where it's getting worse. The very nature of for-profit "news" is anathema to a leftist world view.

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Yeah I feel the same way. It almost feels like a Psy op or something, like it's crackpot theories to discredit the idea that we should break up the polyopoly

What left leaning media?

Surprisingly, politics

You're confusing ability with intent. The US didn't intend to flatten Afghanistan. Let's be honest, no one really knows what they intended, but leveling the country was not in the remit. The US military was not built to fight insurgents in their own mountains.

What the US military is good for is fighting another large military in open warfare. And in that capacity, The only force on the planet that could contend with any one branch of the US military is another branch of the US military. The Navy has 11 aircraft carriers with 60 planes each. China has one. Russia had one.

The Russians are struggling to defeat Ukraine. A country with a third the population and a hundredth the landmass. If the US decided to act militarily in Russia (and nukes didn't exist), the war would be over in a month. We have a standing peacetime military that is larger than their wartime active military.

Also the US lost about 2,400 people in Afghanistan. The Afghanis lost at least 240,000. That may not be winning, but it doesn't look like losing.

I believe this started with the Telecommunications Act of 96. (I plan on watching this later, so maybe it's mentioned). Media used to hold political figures and the wealthy somewhat accountable. Now those guys just flat out run media and use it as a tool to divide and shape opinions in order to maintain the status quo.

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Sources? Apparently, I'm talking to one.

Whatever, man. Go snack on some crayons.

The really funny part is how many people who watch FOX, OAN or Newsmax actually believe what they are being told and are either too stupid or too ignorant to realize they are being lied to and conned at the same time!

Sources then? What do crazy, angry old cat ladies even get upset about other than animal stuff?

For us, Europe is what we compare ourselves to, culturally and economically. Compared to them, we're definitely to the right.

But, compared to the whole world, I think you're right on.

Not at all, the other networks don't get the facts correct all the time but they do it at a much higher rate than FOX, OAN and News Max who basically lie to their viewers at as close to 100% as they can get.

You say that as though it's a new sentiment.

So, name 19 countries further left than the U.S.

>the US military could completely flatten the Russian army

Huh? The U.S. couldn't even defeat primativists fighting with Mosin-Nagants in Afghanistan after two decades.

True leftism isn't even on the table in the US. THAT'S the function of the 'leftist' MSM.

Meanwhile, we're maybe THE most right-leaning 'developed' country, all the while the right tells us we'll be communist - I.E., like the social democracies, which are simply more regulated capitalist countries, in Europe, any day now. It's how all those Koch-funded organizations and "non-partisan" foundations work to keep things like national healthcare out of serious consideration, even though a majority of Americans favor it.

What you want from MSM is factual reporting and you will never get 100% factual reporting from any of the major networks, but with that being said you have to look to those that present the facts at the highest level and the best at doing it are ABC, CBS, NBC and the worst are by far, FOX, OAN and News Max.

Cool, Reddit does a good job of doing that too.

You literally said it yourself, it’s all owned by the rich and they purposefully don’t tell us the truth. You are literally agreeing with my statement and then claiming I’m protecting my what-about-ism like I was wrong.