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Surur t1_jczia7a wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in The difference between AI and AGI by Shiningc
Because we have biologists tell us how they work. We can actually examine the neurons, the axons, the dendrites and synapses.
So we know how biological human networks work, and we simulate how they work in computer neural networks.
We know its just stats and probabilities.
SpaceAgeGekko t1_jczi7wt wrote
When looking into the mid and far future is hard to think of anything a robot can’t do that a human can without defining that thing as “human made”. But something else worth thinking about is that there is likely a point at which an AI stops being a machine/tool and starts being a person with legal protections and self awareness. Defining humans (technologically enhanced or not), digital sapiences , and anything else that can demonstrate self awareness and is given legal protection as legal persons separate from AIs/machines without personhood, then it is likely there are some tasks only a ‘person’ could do.
The caveats here are
1: It is possible to engineer an AI that can perfectly match or be better than a human mind in all aspects, without making it self aware (and we would want the philosophical and scientific evidence to prove that this machine is not self aware). In this case this AI would be considered a tool, and could do everything a human can (except make explicitly defined ‘human made’ goods)
2: The society in question (there could be multiple who each treat this topic differently) chooses not to grant legal protection to proveably self aware AIs, and uses them as tools. These could do anything a human could. (Many sci fi users, myself included, view this as extremely similar and as morally evil as human slavery)
Tl:dr Assuming a sufficiently advanced machine could be self aware, an advanced and ethical society would consider an advanced self aware machine to be a person entitled to same or similar legal protections that human workers would have. Therefore there are some tasks only a person could do that a non sapient machine could not.
CabinetDear3035 t1_jczi1r3 wrote
Reply to AI displacing jobs is a red herring, how we self-organize is the more fundamental trend by mjrossman
What can be done with companies that eliminate people ?
Shiningc OP t1_jczhs46 wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in The difference between AI and AGI by Shiningc
How do you know how human neural networks work? And why would a branch of mathematics somehow branch into other areas of intelligence?
zam0th t1_jczhon0 wrote
Reply to UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful
Dude, Apple made a TV show about how Earth and society and corporate greed would look like in 2047 with global warming and stuff and almost looked like a documentary.
right_there t1_jczhhzy wrote
Reply to comment by Willdudes in UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful
Carbon capture is pie-in-the-sky shit right now. None of the CCS facilities have gotten even close to their targets, and it's being used as a smokescreen to justify extracting even more fossil fuels.
Mortlach78 t1_jczgxkv wrote
Reply to comment by filosoful in UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful
It's hard to remain optimistic when states detailing their plans for the collorado River keep talking about measure in context of maintaining strong economic growth...
No! You're supposed to start using LESS water, not find ways to justify using more! But "less" is the biggest bug bear in capitalism, so I guess we're all doomed.
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altmorty t1_jczgica wrote
Reply to comment by ZoeInBinary in UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful
>Global covid response was halting, half-assed, and resulted in millions of idiots mainlining horse meds instead of following official mitigation protocol.
By "global", do you actually mean America? Pretty sure millions of idiots weren't taking horse meds globally.
Saving millions of lives and creating vaccines in record times, using break through tech, isn't indicative of hopeless.
I'm guessing no amount of evidence will be enough for doomers like you.
Optimal-Associate219 t1_jczfwvq wrote
Reply to comment by augustulus1 in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829
Then they CAN do the job, they’re just not allowed to
daddymusic t1_jczfrj8 wrote
Reply to comment by AdorableBackground83 in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829
I don’t see robots doing surgery in 25 years. I could imagine some rapid advances in health science making a lot of surgeries obsolete, but the actual surgeries themselves? Nah
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Reply to comment by AdorableBackground83 in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829
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Orcus424 t1_jczfkz4 wrote
Reply to comment by augustulus1 in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829
When we get true AI I have no doubt our robotics technology will be a lot more advanced by that point. Majority of people aren't going to really care if it's handcrafted. Plus a lot of stuff is sold every single day that says it was handcrafted when it was machine made.
GallantChaos t1_jczf6o4 wrote
Reply to comment by Due_Start_3597 in 10 months after its launch by SpaceX, a $10,000 satellite made by students with off-the-shelf materials and powered by 48 Energizer AA batteries, is not only working, it's demonstrating a way to reduce space junk by lughnasadh
I see two possibilities for why this may not be:
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Those thrusters may be necessary for collision avoidance during the deorbit phase. (to prevent hitting in-service satellites)
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The thrusters are used and depleted to keep the satellites in orbit - and thus in service - as long as possible.
Adding a parachute like this may help increase drag and can be deployed with little additional cost/mass.
Willdudes t1_jczezgb wrote
Reply to comment by alsomahler in UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful
1.5 was a pipe dream we will not make the change’s necessary, our best bet is carbon capture. Industry produces the vast majority of carbon I do not see that changing.
https://harvardpolitics.com/climate-change-responsibility/
This should not stop us from acting but consumers will have to vote with their wallets
augustulus1 t1_jczev8w wrote
Reply to comment by Longjumping-Tie-7573 in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829
Nope. Definition of 'handcrafted' by Cambridge Dictionary: made using the hands rather than a machine. Machines can't do handcrafted items, just randomized factory items.
AdorableBackground83 t1_jczer9j wrote
The first wave of automation (in the 2020s and 2030s) will be white collar work.
The second wave of automation (in the 2040s and 2050s) will be blue collar work as advancements in robotics I believe will allow robots to match the dexterity of a human and will allow them to do plumbing, electric work and surgery.
There really isn’t any job or task out there that a machine cannot do as well if not better and its a good thing. The days of “working for a living” will be a distant memory and a horror story we tell our great grand kids about.
Assuming of course UBI and other necessary public services are implemented to make sure our basic standard of living is taken care of.
Longjumping-Tie-7573 t1_jczedvs wrote
Reply to comment by michaelnoir in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829
Forever and ever? Or until an AI is assigned the task to maximize a robot's dexterity and associated programming?
Due_Start_3597 t1_jcze5g5 wrote
Reply to comment by threebillion6 in 10 months after its launch by SpaceX, a $10,000 satellite made by students with off-the-shelf materials and powered by 48 Energizer AA batteries, is not only working, it's demonstrating a way to reduce space junk by lughnasadh
I always thought satellites had some little thrusters on them with some nominal way to make micro-adjustments?
I figured if they wanted to deorbit them, they could be by making "deorbit trajectories"?
Is that not true?
Longjumping-Tie-7573 t1_jcze39m wrote
Reply to comment by augustulus1 in What jobs cannot be done by machines? by Spirited-Meringue829
Oh, that's simply an issue of programming some degree of latitude into the robot's parameters, and 'randomizing' them.
perrinoia t1_jczdqun wrote
Reply to comment by AwesomeDragon97 in Do you think BluRay DVDs are the final form of physical media? Or will a new physical media format come to be, and what would that look like? by Daveyb003
Semantics. Obviously OP meant removable media. There's no need to physically carry media around with us like we used to.
Look at the popularity of chrome books, for instance.
The last time I built a computer, I bought the biggest hard drive I could to fit all of my games and other data. However, my current cellphone is more powerful than the last gaming rig I built. SSDs are so much faster than HDDs, and the internet is so much faster, I don't need to store everything I own locally. I can use my internal storage as a buffer to store whatever I'm actively working on or playing with, while archiving the rest on the cloud and downloading as needed.
snoogins355 t1_jczdmta wrote
Reply to comment by eyecantfocus in Rolls-Royce go-ahead to build a nuclear reactor on Moon - Scientists and engineers are working on the micro-reactor programme that will help humans to live and work on Earth's natural satellite by Gari_305
That's the show For All Mankind
eyecantfocus t1_jczdf8z wrote
Reply to comment by snoogins355 in Rolls-Royce go-ahead to build a nuclear reactor on Moon - Scientists and engineers are working on the micro-reactor programme that will help humans to live and work on Earth's natural satellite by Gari_305
So excited to hear about moon war in the future.
Surur t1_jczczkh wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in The difference between AI and AGI by Shiningc
Specifically human intelligence yes, since that is how human neural networks work.
ZoeInBinary t1_jczid5r wrote
Reply to comment by altmorty in UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful
Horse meds were a largely American problem, but countries such as Russia, Brazil, and India had an equally rough time combating the pandemic. Even China, with their take-no-prisoners authoritarian response, in the end couldn't contain the spread.
Which is my point. We can't depend on a few smaller nations taking needed actions; to beat climate change, we need action from everyone, including the Americas and Brazils and Indias of the world. Particularly considering how much American consumption policy influences global production...