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vwb2022 t1_jd85lz2 wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
People are taking this too far, current AI (if you can call it that) is fairly rudimentary and incapable of replacing most jobs and I doubt it will be for a long time. ChatGPT is basically a memorization tool, testing described here shows that it does great on problems that are identical or very similar to those that were part of its training set, but it's abysmal on problems outside that. So yeah, it's great when you have to regurgitate a bunch of textbooks, but it's not good using that knowledge to solve even the simplest new problems.
If you want insight into what the society will look like in the future, you can look to the past. Arguably, society 100 years ago, before any computers and automation, was not that different than society today. People still live in houses, they are a bit fancier, but it's still the same house. We cook, we work in offices and factories, we consume entertainment. We just have better tools that are more widely available, the same way that horse buggies were replaced by cars.
So a society 100 years from now will likely look fairly similar as well, the rate of technological change is not that big that we'll see massive changes at a fundamental level. Your car may look different, but it's still likely to be a car (non-flying sort). Your house may have more gadgets. Your work may look different, but no different than somebody moving from a typewriter to a computer with a word processor.
jonah1123 t1_jd85g1j wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
There was a kid in Ancient Babylon asking the same question. Everyone thinks their way of life/civilization is the last that will ever exist.
There is no endgame. We’ll keep growing and evolving as a species.
wesap12345 t1_jd855rd wrote
Reply to comment by nemoomen in Homes for alien life? Two moons of Uranus ‘may harbour active oceans’ by mancinedinburgh
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InflationCold3591 t1_jd853lu wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
It’s in a decade when wheat crops can no longer be grown in the Midwest. You are worried about the wrong shit.
thomja t1_jd84zox wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
> This is the point where AI has gotten so advanced that no jobs have any meaning anymore.
This is just not true. Assuming you are referring to openAIs chatGPT. It is still very far behind people in many tasks. And most this is just software. You should see it as a tool.
There are many manual labor tasks that will still have to get done for many years to come, cleaning, law enforcement, any type of pilot, gardener, kindergarden teacher and so on. There will probably be plenty of jobs left to do in our lifetime, if not perhaps, we can use an AI to find new ones.
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Simmery t1_jd84x6l wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
> Nothing matters anymore
I've got news for you. Nothing matters now, except what you decide matters.
> and there is nothing anyone can conceivably contribute to society that is in any way, shape or form better than the weakest A.I. system would do
The modern way that we look at work and art is more of an anomaly than we realize. There's no reason to hold onto it as if it's the only way to do things. People will always want to work at something, to better themselves or to experience something new. And maybe we get to a time that no artist can produce anything as good as AI. That's fine, because people will still do art. Art will return to a simpler thing, where it is an expression of oneself and/or a performance for others. AI can only replace the end of art, not the rest of the human experience of it. Watching an AI robot dance can't replace dancing.
So I'm not worried about AI in that sense. Maybe a rogue AI will kill humanity someday. I don't know. I doubt it. The biggest worry, I think, is making it through the next century as climate change increases global conflict. This is the final boss.
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CrelbowMannschaft t1_jd84s2t wrote
Reply to comment by tiopepe002 in Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
Why would they value human life to the detriment all other species? We are causing a major extinction event. The only way to stop that extinction event is to get rid of most of humanity. If our AI progeny have any priority to take care of life on Earth, we're doomed.
vm_linuz t1_jd84r9m wrote
Reply to Persuasive piece by Robert Wright. Worrying about the rapid advancement of AI no longer makes you a kook. by OpenlyFallible
Society is just catching up to what AI safety experts have been saying for years.
Good thing AI scales slowly so society has time to consider things thoroughly.
SuperSimpleSam t1_jd84dmz wrote
Reply to comment by zam0th in UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful
Which show?
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buy_chocolate_bars t1_jd84akk wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
>no jobs have any meaning anymore. Nothing matters anymore
Based on some people's perspective, in the grand scheme of things, none of this matters anyways.
>anyone can conceivably contribute to society that is in any way, shape or form better than the weakest A.I. system would do
I'm pretty sure it's going to be before the end of this century.
CrelbowMannschaft t1_jd846o3 wrote
Reply to comment by New-Tip4903 in Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
Probably a few million of the wealthiest and most powerful families will survive for a little while. Eventually, entropy and apathy will take them out, too. Why bother with educating humans after a few generations? The survivors will eventually go feral, then die out.
Kytyngurl2 t1_jd84554 wrote
Just give me one that can make dim sum, I’m not too greedy
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FuturologyBot t1_jd841r7 wrote
Reply to IPCC chart says Solar PV and Wind Turbines are best way to achieve Deep, Rapid, and Low Cost emission cuts before 2030. by DisasterousGiraffe
The following submission statement was provided by /u/DisasterousGiraffe:
"Solar, according to the IPCC report, can deliver more emission cuts than any other technology by 2030, when the world needs to have cut its emissions by at least half if it is to have any chance of capping average global warming at 1.5°C. Solar and wind together offer nearly ten times the emission cut potential than nuclear, and 20 times that of carbon capture."
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txdm t1_jd83yqa wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
On a brighter take, by doing so many of the menial things for us that consume so much of our days, AI could help us humans re-evaluate or rediscover happiness and fulfillment in life.
WokkitUp t1_jd83wk9 wrote
This cake tastes like cement! But is it affordable and sustainable for future generations? Your answers will be questioned on this episode of "Cake Foreman"!
Yali_ t1_jd83lxj wrote
Reply to Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
There's 2 potential outcomes for our current civilization. It either gets wiped out by cataclysm and starts over again or we break the cycle with technology and discover new ways to survive sustainably and protect ourselves from the planet's cycles
tiopepe002 OP t1_jd83lkg wrote
Reply to comment by CrelbowMannschaft in Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
Why would they care about the environment, though?
They don't need trees, as we do.
What do you think? I genuinely want to know, as I'm clueless myself! :)
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Reply to comment by SticklerMrMeeseeks1 in Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
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Johnisfaster t1_jd83566 wrote
Reply to comment by Dziadzios in If you knew for certain the technological singularity will occur at the end of 2025, what would you do? by awcomix
The point is that people will want VR that looks perfect. If we ever actually achieve it it would be followed by an existential crisis.
raff7 t1_jd85ngx wrote
Reply to comment by oferchrissake in Endgame for f****** society! by tiopepe002
there is literaly nothing that a human can do that a machine cannot do in principle, given advanced enough technologies.. so yea this is bullshit