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Slipper1981 t1_jdqisx2 wrote

Doesn’t have to be a big screen. Size of your palm would be enough for a phone. Google search it, the concept has been envisioned for years.

Screen inside your eye i’m sure will be possible in the not too distant future, it’s effectively how they’re working on blindness cures. But it’s not the question of today about mobile phones.

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GPUoverlord t1_jdqimd3 wrote

Do you think people in the year 1905 said “The labor movement is starting in a few years…”

One thing happens then another, few years later, everyone looks back And go “that’s was a neat little labor movement”

Makes it seem like it was planned, that it takes a leader

It’s not, it’s just people reading their breaking points

And the labor movement in America sucked, miners and farmers in America were too scared dying so we never got universal paid time off, universal healthcare and all that good stuff

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_Hellrazor_ t1_jdqim1l wrote

How can you equate creating an artificial brain to something vastly more simple in comparison such as an organ? Yes they are both complex tasks but one is quite clearly unfathomably more difficult to accomplish than the other. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we’ll see printed organs aside from the brain within the next few decades

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Alpha3031 t1_jdqiizn wrote

I believe what /u/whyzantium is saying is that preindustrial working patterns are sufficiently different to be incomparable (or at least difficult to compare) but arguably less onerous*, and the change you point to has a starting point that was post–industrial revolution, circa 19th century, and took a century of activism after that to achieve.

* See for example excerpt from Schor (1993).

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PM_ME_A_PM_PLEASE_PM t1_jdqi277 wrote

I understood what you said. I just said that's consistently diminishing for various reasons too because of the consolidation in power the capitalization of machines provides.

There won't be a labor force where humans are widely employed merely to provide orders to AI. That can be simplified further. You can look at the fully automated grocery stores, fully automated McDonalds, or other examples relating to control systems to see basic applications of that.

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SomeoneSomewhere1984 t1_jdqhp02 wrote

Have you ever worked in the private sector? Because they can't handle those things. The belief they can is based on the false idea that people are basically good, honest, and put the public interest above their own greed. That's not how things actually work though.

The incentives are all wrong for the private sector to even attempt to handle those things. They prioritize short term gains and don't consider the long term costs. Government is required to ensure companies don't risk public safety for short term gain, when the incentives set by capitalism encourage them to do so.

Yes, I support the health department inspecting restaurants, if the private sector tried to do that the restaurant owners would pay them to pass even when they should fail. The government can do that effectively because they aren't trying to make money, so they don't have a motive to pass a restaurant that should fail.

There are many things society needs to function where the incentive for profit encourages people to the opposite of what needs to be done. That's where government comes in. In a property functioning capitalist system the government tries to align the interest of the private sector with the public good.

Profit motive and public good aren't aligned by magic as you seem to think. The government is required to keep those things aligned by setting the rules for the private sector and creating incentives to do the right thing. Where that isn't enough to align profit motive and public good, the government runs things themselves, as they run courts, the military, programs to care for the sick and elderly who can't care for themselves.

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FuturologyBot t1_jdqhmvu wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/Gari_305:


From the Article

>A newly developed machine-learning tool could help scientists search for signs of life on Mars and other alien worlds.
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>With the ability to collect samples from other planets severely limited, scientists currently have to rely on remote sensing methods to hunt for signs of alien life. That means any method that could help direct or refine this search would be incredibly useful.
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>With this in mind, a multidisciplinary team of scientists led by Kim Warren-Rhodes of the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute in California mapped the sparse lifeforms that dwell in salt domes, rocks and crystals in the Salar de Pajonales, a salt flat on the boundary of the Chilean Atacama Desert and Altiplano, or high plateau.


Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/122j29g/artificial_intelligence_could_help_hunt_for_life/jdqehxq/

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SheoGodofMadness t1_jdqgrfm wrote

>What is the value of consciousness without an organic body

This seems like an EXTREMELY anthropocentric and narrow view of the universe. Why is our form of thought the only valid or meaningful one, to your mind?

An AI is still physical, it still exists within servers and such. It still has a connection to reality like we do, albeit in a different way.

Nobody says an AI has to be unfeeling, either. Depends on how it is designed.

Regardless, you seem very hung up on our specific form of consciousness and only assign value to that.

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