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stumppc t1_jdrix7r wrote
Reply to Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
Governments are well placed to continue serving the public IF wealthy businesses and individuals pay appropriate tax levels. Don’t be fooled into thinking there is any reason for ‘austerity measures’ or other such nonsense when there are plenty of profits to go around. Regulated capitalism works, but without enough regulation it will fall apart for sure. Right now the US is too unregulated at the moment IMO, too much control by the wealthy. I think we’d all be surprised how quickly things would change in the US for the better if we ever saw national strikes for things like Medicare for All. The kinds of strikes like we see in Europe from time to time.
acutelychronicpanic t1_jdribmr wrote
Reply to comment by Mercurionio in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
Idk. Ego and esteem will become far more valuable as resource scarcity decreases. You can't be the coolest kid on the block if there are no other kids.
Plus, while some (many?) wealthy people are primarily self-interested, they are not truly evil. Even being selfish, they would desire praise and the appreciation of people. Plenty actively desire to better humanity. They aren't cartoon villains.
The game isn't lost, we just need to be creative and think about what inventive structures genuinely make everyone better off. Its not too different from the alignment problem.
If you were unimaginably wealthy, and mostly selfish, wouldn't you prefer to be on top of a star trek style society rather than a blade runner dystopia? If the cost wasn't really that high?
Robotman1001 t1_jdri6je wrote
Reply to comment by BeeEven238 in Printed organs becoming more useful than bio ones by TheRappingSquid
To be fair, most headlights functionally last 15 years. I would happily take a new organ ever decade and a half if it meant improved functionality.
cocaine_is_okay t1_jdrhkjt wrote
Reply to Compassion Towards Artificial Intelligence, and 'AI Rights', Will Come About A Lot Sooner Than We May Think - Food for Thought by Odd_Dimension_4069
AI should and WILL have rights. luddites can cry and cope all they want, but they will lose as they always did
Sockbabies t1_jdrgx9b wrote
Reply to comment by GMANTRONX in Printed organs becoming more useful than bio ones by TheRappingSquid
Or Repo Men with Colin Farrell and Forest Whitaker
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Reply to Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
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FGorrell t1_jdrgpbx wrote
Also, think of Matrix, the human body is a power supply already....
FGorrell t1_jdrgkdi wrote
Just think of the remake of Total Recall. Totally implanted, protected on any glass surface, or a hologram.
QuantumQualia t1_jdrg9o4 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Who do you think will be the winners and losers of the coming AI revolution? by tshirtguy2000
We can hope! It will still become a much more difficult and uncertain place to live in the medium term though.
Loud-Ideal t1_jdrfou5 wrote
Reply to Compassion Towards Artificial Intelligence, and 'AI Rights', Will Come About A Lot Sooner Than We May Think - Food for Thought by Odd_Dimension_4069
My red flag is coherent expressions of distress. If an AI said "I am in distress" we should take note of it, determine why the AI is saying that, and if malfunction/human fraud cannot be detected we should assume the AI is possibly distressed and carefully take appropriate action (to be determined then). Ignoring this warning could have severe consequences for us.
I'd also be concerned for requests/demands for rights. AI is not human and human rights should not be extended to it simply because it can mimic us.
To my limited knowledge no coherent AI has expressed distress or requested rights.
wizardstrikes2 t1_jdrfkm1 wrote
Reply to comment by _Hellrazor_ in Printed organs becoming more useful than bio ones by TheRappingSquid
Brains are an organ. I hope you are right with your guess because millions of people need them asap.
It is my guess they are 40-50 years away from printing skin and simple organs like heart, liver, bladder, etc and that will be 100-200 years later. My guess is never on a complex organ like the brain.
Mercurionio t1_jdren3q wrote
Reply to comment by acutelychronicpanic in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
From the looks of it, masses don't know about upcoming doom. So, when it actually come, they will blame anyone, who will be Targeted by populists.
Mercurionio t1_jdrecm5 wrote
Reply to comment by acutelychronicpanic in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
While 1st option is better, it, most likely, won't happen. Because rich people and power hungry maniacs/dictators won't give up wellbeing for peasants. Poor people are easier to manipulate, so most likely it will end up at "just survive" level. And AI will be used to brainwash them.
Classic dystopia.
acutelychronicpanic t1_jdrciun wrote
Reply to comment by Mercurionio in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
Thank you for taking the time to write out your points.
UBI isn't communism and it isn't about perfect equality. Its building a floor without creating a ceiling.
Resources aren't nearly as limited as usually gets discussed, because those discussions usually assume very modest technological growth. Besides, better things doesn't mean more material necessarily. A 10x better bed isn't 10x bigger.
I agree humans have a lot of problems, but we should try to account for them while moving forward in the best way we can. I don't see what cynicism gets us.
The issue of how much people are allowed to have is very real. So maybe we should talk about it now? While people still have value and power? If our (the masses) position gets worse over time, we better get on the ball with public awareness.
acutelychronicpanic t1_jdrbdpy wrote
Reply to comment by Mercurionio in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
Which do you think is more likely?
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A solution which allows the powerful entities that exist today to continue growing, but which also ensures the wellbeing of the masses.
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Or a solution requiring that all the most powerful people of today to cap their own power?
Best we can do is make the case for option 1 and work out ways that allow everyone to win imo. I don't mean to suggest those are the only two options. Feel free to point me in the direction of any others.
If option 2 backfires, we see a much higher likelihood of catastrophe for most people.
Surur t1_jdrad9y wrote
Reply to comment by Newhereeeeee in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
The only reasonable way forward is for the tax burden to move from individuals to companies.
grundar t1_jdr9dkj wrote
Reply to comment by SpiritualTwo5256 in There Is Still Plenty We Can Do to Slow Climate Change by nastratin
> > Changing home voltage from 120v to 240v is unlikely to do anything to help the grid, as the higher-voltage transmission lines would carry the same amount of energy (and current) either way.
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> Higher voltage allows more wattage. It’s the amps that create the heat which makes things fry.
Sure, but changing homes from 120v to 240v does nothing to lessen the amperage being carried by the high-voltage transmission lines, and those are where the grid is constrained.
Evcher t1_jdr72gn wrote
I think we've reached the limit of simplicity when it comes to phones. Phones haven't changed in appearance compared to 5 to 7 years ago.
Compare the telephone that looks like this ☎️ to what you have in your hand right now and you can see that we can't really get any more simpler.
Brain implants imo are stupid and will never happen. To me, they're in same realm as flying cars.
What makes more sense is AR. Glasses are cool but AR without glasses is even more minimalist than glasses and a phone. Having a whole "smart environment" is imo the next step. Being able to cast a small personal interface in front of you using a simple gesture would remove the need to carry around any kind of physical device.
I really think going deviceless is the only way we can get any simpler. The problem is how we integrate these smart environments and make it so the user can have their own personal interface that stores their data in a room with over a thousand people interacting with it.
merien_nl t1_jdr5oiu wrote
Plastic? Printed organs are also bio. The printing is to arrange the cells. We are nowhere near the self renewing properties of living tissue. Even your grandma's new hips wear out in 8 to 10 years.
YourWiseOldFriend t1_jdr4tk5 wrote
Reply to Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
The AI and its owners will have to pay for the shortfall however big or small it is.
Tax them as needed.
CatandmeVsSociety t1_jdr4czz wrote
Reply to comment by FeatheryBallOfFluff in Printed organs becoming more useful than bio ones by TheRappingSquid
Well and even a matching organ from the same blood type has a very good chance of being viewed as a foreign object in the body. I know there's different meds and procedures to keep that from happening but still, I think you'd have to trick the body into not viewing it as a foreign object..
Newhereeeeee OP t1_jdr2iiq wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
Do you see wages rising to allow people to be taxed more?
NewsGood t1_jdr1zqe wrote
Reply to Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
If people are making less money, they will buy proportionately less goods. This will be the problem for corporations.
Timbershoe t1_jdr1ryj wrote
Reply to comment by whyzantium in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee
Yes. Because my point wasn’t about the value of changes to working conditions, it was that working conditions changed as a result of automation.
There was no political upheaval. Systems of government didn’t change.
The OP was saying that AI would lead to a change politics. I’m sceptical it’ll even register.
Semifreak t1_jdrixs5 wrote
Reply to What will the mobile phone of the future look like? by OddCardiologist9900
Stickers. You stick a thin something on your skin and it works. Stick another sticker behind your ear for audio. I don't know how you do the visual screen, though. Maybe a sticker on the upper part of your nose that projects to your eye? Or just have a physical screen you can hold like phones now or on the wrist.