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Semifreak t1_jdrixs5 wrote

Stickers. You stick a thin something on your skin and it works. Stick another sticker behind your ear for audio. I don't know how you do the visual screen, though. Maybe a sticker on the upper part of your nose that projects to your eye? Or just have a physical screen you can hold like phones now or on the wrist.

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stumppc t1_jdrix7r wrote

Governments are well placed to continue serving the public IF wealthy businesses and individuals pay appropriate tax levels. Don’t be fooled into thinking there is any reason for ‘austerity measures’ or other such nonsense when there are plenty of profits to go around. Regulated capitalism works, but without enough regulation it will fall apart for sure. Right now the US is too unregulated at the moment IMO, too much control by the wealthy. I think we’d all be surprised how quickly things would change in the US for the better if we ever saw national strikes for things like Medicare for All. The kinds of strikes like we see in Europe from time to time.

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acutelychronicpanic t1_jdribmr wrote

Idk. Ego and esteem will become far more valuable as resource scarcity decreases. You can't be the coolest kid on the block if there are no other kids.

Plus, while some (many?) wealthy people are primarily self-interested, they are not truly evil. Even being selfish, they would desire praise and the appreciation of people. Plenty actively desire to better humanity. They aren't cartoon villains.

The game isn't lost, we just need to be creative and think about what inventive structures genuinely make everyone better off. Its not too different from the alignment problem.

If you were unimaginably wealthy, and mostly selfish, wouldn't you prefer to be on top of a star trek style society rather than a blade runner dystopia? If the cost wasn't really that high?

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Loud-Ideal t1_jdrfou5 wrote

My red flag is coherent expressions of distress. If an AI said "I am in distress" we should take note of it, determine why the AI is saying that, and if malfunction/human fraud cannot be detected we should assume the AI is possibly distressed and carefully take appropriate action (to be determined then). Ignoring this warning could have severe consequences for us.

I'd also be concerned for requests/demands for rights. AI is not human and human rights should not be extended to it simply because it can mimic us.

To my limited knowledge no coherent AI has expressed distress or requested rights.

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Mercurionio t1_jdrecm5 wrote

While 1st option is better, it, most likely, won't happen. Because rich people and power hungry maniacs/dictators won't give up wellbeing for peasants. Poor people are easier to manipulate, so most likely it will end up at "just survive" level. And AI will be used to brainwash them.

Classic dystopia.

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acutelychronicpanic t1_jdrciun wrote

Thank you for taking the time to write out your points.

UBI isn't communism and it isn't about perfect equality. Its building a floor without creating a ceiling.

Resources aren't nearly as limited as usually gets discussed, because those discussions usually assume very modest technological growth. Besides, better things doesn't mean more material necessarily. A 10x better bed isn't 10x bigger.

I agree humans have a lot of problems, but we should try to account for them while moving forward in the best way we can. I don't see what cynicism gets us.

The issue of how much people are allowed to have is very real. So maybe we should talk about it now? While people still have value and power? If our (the masses) position gets worse over time, we better get on the ball with public awareness.

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acutelychronicpanic t1_jdrbdpy wrote

Which do you think is more likely?

  1. A solution which allows the powerful entities that exist today to continue growing, but which also ensures the wellbeing of the masses.

  2. Or a solution requiring that all the most powerful people of today to cap their own power?

Best we can do is make the case for option 1 and work out ways that allow everyone to win imo. I don't mean to suggest those are the only two options. Feel free to point me in the direction of any others.

If option 2 backfires, we see a much higher likelihood of catastrophe for most people.

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grundar t1_jdr9dkj wrote

> > Changing home voltage from 120v to 240v is unlikely to do anything to help the grid, as the higher-voltage transmission lines would carry the same amount of energy (and current) either way.
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> Higher voltage allows more wattage. It’s the amps that create the heat which makes things fry.

Sure, but changing homes from 120v to 240v does nothing to lessen the amperage being carried by the high-voltage transmission lines, and those are where the grid is constrained.

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Evcher t1_jdr72gn wrote

I think we've reached the limit of simplicity when it comes to phones. Phones haven't changed in appearance compared to 5 to 7 years ago.

Compare the telephone that looks like this ☎️ to what you have in your hand right now and you can see that we can't really get any more simpler.

Brain implants imo are stupid and will never happen. To me, they're in same realm as flying cars.

What makes more sense is AR. Glasses are cool but AR without glasses is even more minimalist than glasses and a phone. Having a whole "smart environment" is imo the next step. Being able to cast a small personal interface in front of you using a simple gesture would remove the need to carry around any kind of physical device.

I really think going deviceless is the only way we can get any simpler. The problem is how we integrate these smart environments and make it so the user can have their own personal interface that stores their data in a room with over a thousand people interacting with it.

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Timbershoe t1_jdr1ryj wrote

Yes. Because my point wasn’t about the value of changes to working conditions, it was that working conditions changed as a result of automation.

There was no political upheaval. Systems of government didn’t change.

The OP was saying that AI would lead to a change politics. I’m sceptical it’ll even register.

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