Soo, basically they wouldn't release an AGI.

ChatGPT is not particularly good at coming up with new jokes, because often the process of creating a joke is non-linear. You usually think of the punch line first, then come up with the setup afterwards.

ChatGPT responses are constructed in a linear fashion, and it is not capable of this type of non-linear thinking. Considering this, I'd say that ChatGPT does not have a sense of humor. It can explain jokes right now, but is not good at coming up with new ones.

That said, I'm sure this problem is being worked on and there's a good chance in a few years that this will be possible. This line of research, I'm sure, will help with far more than just humor.

Different in what way?

Thank you for your response! I appreciate it.

I'd agree if it were true ASI (artificial super intelligence). But a proto-agi as smart as a highchooler that can run on a desktop would be worth hundreds of billions, if not trillions. They would have incentive to lease that system out before they reached AGI.

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That's fast. Makes me think of SpaceX's Starship. Elon claimed (big grain of salt) it will be able to complete 1000 passenger, sub-orbital flights from anywhere on earth to anywhere on earth in 30mins or less with no need for an airstrip.

That's a remarkable example of it understanding how to structure a joke and understanding what makes it humorous.

That's different than the AI having a sense of humor, but just being able to understand it is remarkable in and of itself.

Yes, but they don't need to sell it to make money because the AGI can make all the money for them.

tldr: venus is probably the worst choice.

venus is actually one of the most difficult to dismantle compared to mercury it has the following disadvantages:

- gravity:higher gravity on venus, means more energy is needed to launch mined material into space. on mercury a magnetic railgun powered by solar panels (that close to the sun) can more easily do it.

- atmosphere/climate:venus's atmosphere is thick, blocking most solar energy from reaching the surface. making solar a difficult power source. the rain on venus is so acidic almost noting survives on its surface for very long. where mercury has no atmosphere. meaning no friction, no hazardous weather etc. the fricture of venus' thick atmosphere would also be a huge detrimental force in lauching anything back up into space.

- surface temperature:venus has a much higher surface temperature than mercury, due to its runaway greenhouse effect. so high infact (up to 400*C) that most electronics will simply not operate. we would need to invent new cesium based electronics to operate anything on venus. Where mercury's day side is hot, its night side is actually very cold. ideal for operating electronics. and supercooling any magnets needed to operate a space launching railgun.

- available materials:mercury has large deposits of silicium on its surface, which can be used to locally product solar cells to operate machinery, factories and panels to power the dyson swarm. mercury also has a metalic core, which would be used to construct swarm segements, and electronics. where venus also has these materials (we think) its mostly its corrosive atmosphere with sulphuric acid rains that make production there almost impossible.

other more accesible targets:many asteroids in the asteroid belt between mars and jupiter would proably be mining targets sooner than venus is, simply because low gravity would make it easy to access, mine and launch towards the dyson swarm. some even have completely exposed metalic cores, could be moved into near earth orbit, or lunar orbit, and mined with more easy close to home.

this will be actually probably the first space mining industry's to develop, most people think blue origin and spacex final goal is space trips. but their final goal is probably space asteroid mining. capturing one of those metalic exposed asteroids and mining it, would make any company that achieves it an instant trillion dollar company. and it can probably me done with remotely controlled, or ai controlled space drones. within the next 50-100 years.

They aren't the only ones with a goose. They're just the first to release it. Across the world, companies are scrambling right now to catch up, and my understanding of the tech is that it should work. The most important mechanisms exist as publicly available knowledge.

Yeah sure like sandwich is a good blanket description for any food item that contains a piece of bread. There's only one reason to use "close enough" terminology to describe a product and that's so you can sell it for more to naive consumers.

So you don't think actual AI is interesting?

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Just blame China and everything will be alright

I look forward to all the expect opinions claiming hydrogen isn't a viable fuel source and we shouldn't be wasting our time with it.... as if their personal money was going into these non-government funded projects.

This is false. You no longer need fresh water to make hydrogen. There are a lot of hydrogen facilities coming up around the world with desalination as part of their plant.

No, that’s not what I was saying. I was saying that currently our very best sauce still requires a lot of computing power. And that once the secret is out, knowledge is great but it will still take tons of computer power to implement it.

It’s also true that computing power will continue to increase, although Moore and his law may both be dead now. So the rate of increase is uncertain.

It’s possible that some things just won’t scale to the individual level. If that’s true, then most individuals will only have gated access to AGI.

Computing power per cost decreases (increases, sorry, reverse that, flip it around) exponentially. So what I think you are saying is, AGI will be prohibitively expensive. But what I think you actually said is that all it takes is computing power (as opposed to secret sauce).

If that's the case it's inevitable that a company has AGI, and if all it takes is computing power, eventually FOSS will have it too.

I mean if you have a golden-egg laying goose, then you don't even need to sell the goose. You can have all the money in the world.

An AGI is, metaphorically, like a super-genius. They wouldn't want a super genius to be poached by somebody else.

Probably not, but then again a lot of people are controlled by corporations.

No.

Sorry, too short?

Both the program itself and the designers of it will tell you it has no sense of humor. There are some excellent white papers and podcast and articles written about it; how because it’s a language model, people will hallucinate a personality behind it. We live in a world in which anything that can produce that kind of language has some aspects of humanity, and it’s very very hard for us not to accidentally project at least some humanity into that system.

WTF does an Adjusted Gross Income have to do with any of this?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=agi+meaning

I continue to wonder at the paranoia surrounding the anticipated AI singularity when all we have seen so far is expert systems, which do not have to pretend to be conscious, and elaborations on the clever hans swindle. This, imo, is the immediate threat, an AI fake that's good enough to fool a lot of people. The computers that could do this are expensive and expensive to run, some rich corp would likely figure a way to use it to make money, big woopdedoo. If you are anticipating the advent of a true singularity, get comfortable, it will be a long wait. AGI? Changing the acronym just makes it look like the goalposts were moved. The advances we are seeing so far in the latest round of equine genius has also increased our potential to bamboozle each other. And the idea that a machine with an off switch could wind up ruling the world and wiping out mankind is something that should stay in the pulp magazines.

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