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tnic73 t1_je5rfc6 wrote
Reply to comment by infidel_castro_26 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
do education us
voreteks t1_je5r13e wrote
Reply to comment by Iffykindofguy in Dude, Where’s My Future? by [deleted]
I wasn’t sold anything. I simply admired the retro-futuristic dreams and portrayals of great visionaries and story tellers—and believe that individuals can come together today to create an oasis of possibility amongst likeminded people.
BookMonkeyDude t1_je5qoc7 wrote
Reply to comment by Phoenix5869 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
Food has also never been cheaper in human history AND a very sizeable percentage of the world do *not* pay for it.. they are fed through pricing supports, direct subsidy and food aid. That's reality, right now.
KamaKairade t1_je5qmj1 wrote
Reply to comment by Phoenix5869 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
I'd recommend checking out the works of Jacque Fresco.
While I am not really a fan of 'the' Venus Project, I am all for 'a' Venus Project.
J_Warphead t1_je5qhxi wrote
Reply to comment by Phoenix5869 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
A heavily regulated capitalism where workers are required to get a fairer share for their labor.
This idea that all the money should go to everyone involved except the people who do all the work just isn’t functional.
Working full-time should guarantee a person all the necessities for a pretty good life. It did for the boomers.
Eleutherlothario t1_je5q67n wrote
Reply to Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
You have your cause and effect mixed up. The people making that argument aren't afraid that automation will end capitalism. Rather they're afraid of capitalism and are using speculation about automation to try to end it.
MpVpRb t1_je5q11i wrote
Reply to Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
"Capitalism" is a complex mix of a lot of economic, social and political ideas
Economic systems will change and adapt to the new technologies. I'm hopeful that the new AI tools will allow us to improve economic systems to make them work better for all. Some may use the old names to describe the new ideas, or maybe a new name will be invented
brokenearth03 t1_je5pyvp wrote
Reply to comment by Phoenix5869 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
What is currency but a proxy for time spent/labor? Today, different peoples labor is exchanged for different values of currency.
If we reach the era where labor isn't necessary for the majority of daily life, what value does labor/time offer anymore? Why would a seemingly very low value commodity (labor/time) be used as a value exchange medium?
There may be a new thing that is developed as a pseudo-currency, based on some other intangible-value-made-tangible, but it wouldn't be a stand in for labor/time in this entire very made up, very simplistic scenario.
Something else would carry value, assuming the entire society is into personal possessions at that point. This may evolve into a communal situation for all we know. Post-need generations would have no need to accumulate. There surely may be some experience, travel, etc that may drive some, but even that may be trivial.
There is zero reason to apply your personal beliefs about the past to future societies that don't have the same restrictions or priorities.
Plate_Of_Soup t1_je5py5y wrote
Reply to comment by ItsAConspiracy in What science and technology should be here already (2023) but isn’t? by InfinityScientist
The narrators combination of drawl and rhotacism is wildly engaging
Phoenix5869 OP t1_je5psrg wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
“Disgusting wealth hoarders“? You mean people like bezos who is the reason you can order items online and get them delivered the next day, or the ceo of apple which made the iphone your typing on?
Strict_Jacket3648 t1_je5ppe9 wrote
Reply to comment by Phoenix5869 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
Well according to sy fy the only thing wrong with socialism is humans take out the greed factor and it works.
NoRich4088 t1_je5pfgl wrote
Reply to comment by theWunderknabe in What science and technology should be here already (2023) but isn’t? by InfinityScientist
None of these things are actually useful, except camouflage. It's entirely pointless and wasteful to make space missions. The Apollo program was a waste of money.
BookMonkeyDude t1_je5pd0x wrote
Reply to Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
>Companies will still sell products, bills will still have to be paid, money will still have to be exchanged (for example, for robotaxis)
Why? Further, how? You just said 'no one is working', so who is going to be buying these products? Do you feel that people will still be able to acquire new products without being paid for labor? If 'bills need to be paid', fine, paid by whom? If money exists as a means of exchange then surely that money/value must be created, how? Do you feel as though innovation would simply cease if people stopped being paid for it? The question game can go both ways and I don't see how any answers you'd be able to provide would be any less disastrous than an attempt to transition away from a growth/capitalist economic paradigm. Your failure of imagination doesn't change the underlying fatal flaws building in capitalism, namely AGI, environmental degradation, a post-fossil fuel energy economy and a globally shrinking population.
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J_Warphead t1_je5pba5 wrote
Reply to Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
For capitalism to succeed, The government has to be an opposing force. Capitalists are encouraged to prosper while the government rides on their back and makes sure it benefits the country as a whole.
When capitalism owns the government, it goes bad.
The US was built on the idea that you could come here and get filthy rich, and you would damn sure chip in to that government that allowed you to become so rich.
Income tax for the wealthy was traditionally very high, they benefited the most, they paid the most. Rockefeller became the richest man in the world while paying more than 75% income tax.
That worked. This doesn’t.
speedywilfork t1_je5p78r wrote
Reply to comment by KurtisLloyd in More Water Found on Moon, Locked in Tiny Glass Beads by Gari_305
yep, exactly. and that is the only reason our planet is inhabitable
NoRich4088 t1_je5p5ik wrote
Reply to comment by Norseviking4 in What science and technology should be here already (2023) but isn’t? by InfinityScientist
"Claiming" that's the important part. Claiming.
KurtisLloyd t1_je5otr4 wrote
Reply to comment by speedywilfork in More Water Found on Moon, Locked in Tiny Glass Beads by Gari_305
Iirc, a mass roughly the size of Mars collided with the Earth. The debris that was expelled from the collision was caught in the now larger planet’s gravitational field. At one point, the earth had a ring, that slowly accumulated into one large mass becoming our moon. I took some astronomy courses years ago, and that was what we were told about the formation of the moon.
swifchif t1_je5osgw wrote
Reply to Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
It's not going to disappear. But we do have complications, like monopolization and automation.
AI is an interesting new facet. It will likely disrupt more and more fields as it progresses. But this isn't a problem for capitalism. AI will either eliminate fields or simply change them. The quickest people to adapt to this will come out on top.
The real problems, in my opinion, are monopolization and regulations. Huge companies aren't kept in check well enough. They play politics and game the system. They're allowed to pollute the environment and nearly monopolize industries. Capitalism works when there's competition. I think it's safer at smaller scales when companies aren't too powerful.
NoRich4088 t1_je5orm7 wrote
Reply to comment by TarTarkus1 in What science and technology should be here already (2023) but isn’t? by InfinityScientist
It was originally thought we would land on mars in the 80s
sassyfras12345 t1_je5oesi wrote
I was searching for ChatGPT and AI and this Sub caught my eye so I came in for a browse.
Have you guys heard of BlockStar? (disclaimer: I am helping out on the BlockStar Team).
It is a decentralized ecosystem, offering several different content creation platforms. From social media, to video, to digital/audio. It also has business utilities like video conferencing, large file transfer and CRM. BlockStar dropped DAISI (Decentralized Artificial Intelligence Support Interface) last week. Lots more to come!
The entire ecosystem is underpinned by blockchain. User data will never be sold off. Only the users can access their own personal data and they control what, if any, they wish to share.
Jesse0100 t1_je5nyv9 wrote
Reply to Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
Capitalism requires a strong consumer base to buy the products produced by capitalists. As robots take over more work in more industries companies fire more employees, eroding the financial strength of the consumer base and decreasing sales. Each company will keep trying to increase its own profits this way with no regard for the economy as a whole. I don't know where this will end but there will be a lot of suffering and poverty along the way.
Under a socialist system, more robots should result in employees working less hours while receiving the same pay, maintaining their ability to contribute to the economy.
megaed99 t1_je5nvno wrote
Reply to Does ChatGPT have a sense of humor? by Tripwir62
I had a similar experience with Chat GPT where I asked it to look at a selection of my poems and tell me what it thought each one was about. It did a remarkably good job at it.
MrsOrangeQueen t1_je5nvle wrote
Reply to comment by Phoenix5869 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
Better? It is literally the worst, most destructive thing humanity has ever developed.
ItsAConspiracy t1_je5rjty wrote
Reply to comment by Plate_Of_Soup in What science and technology should be here already (2023) but isn’t? by InfinityScientist
He has a ton of great videos, and there's a subreddit. (And thanks for teaching me a word :)