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JefferyTheQuaxly t1_je6e1zo wrote

wouldnt it theoretically be possible for robots to travel that far, build up factories and teraform to modify it to humans, and use frozen human eggs and semen to create test tube babies? couldnt they also modify the genes of those babies to help them survive easier? and have lifelike possibly AI robots help raise the first generation of humans? like i agree sending humans that far away oesnt make much sense but i think it could be possible if robotics and/or AI was advanced enough. and it still close enough to recieve reports back to earth, so maybe we could send instructions back to the robots every decade or something and see how progress is going.

now teraforming worlds and building up cities would likely take a ton of time, so it might be centuries before the babies would be incubated. tho we could always send the eggs and semen after the initial building robots so the eggs and semen arent super old, idk how long frozen eggs and semen could potentially last.

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infidel_castro_26 t1_je6auii wrote

i mean in a very broad term that won't offend anyone it is the mode of production that begun around the 16th or 17th century. by mode of production you can also think of it as a way to organise the economy.

biggest parts of this system are centred around which private property, markets and firms. And principally capital.

everything after that is partly controversial. i have my own thoughts. that i'll mostly keep to myself. but i just want to justify why i said what i said.

>Companies will still sell products, bills will still have to be paid, money will still have to be exchanged (for example, for robotaxis). All of these will cost money and require capitalism in order to operate

there are still ways to bend or break capitalism (depending on your viewpoint) and keep these things. that's partly why i bring this up. people sometimes believe using money == capitalism. which is obviously not true as we've had money much longer than capitalism.

capitalism is a specific system defined by all its parts and their relationship. it's a complicated moving system.

>before anyone says “the government will provide everything” planned / government run economies don’t work and history shows that

history shows that robots do not work. every attempt so far has failed. i'm not putting forward this argument to say that a completely panned economy is the way. just to show how the logic is faulty.

>if everything was run by the government that would basically stifle innovation

this is a pretty clear indicator that the poster is presenting his understanding of a dichotomy that just does not really exist. that is either we have a non-capitalist mode of production where the government runs everything or we have what we have now.

personally i don't even disagree with the overall point OP is making. there's nothing incompatible with a real abundance in everything including labour and market dynamics. it's just i'm pretty pessimistic about what that would entail.

we're already seeing the ever-shrinking pool of ownership. i don't see why that wouldn't continue until even our last illusionary safety ladder of labour and hard work is taken away.

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ovirt001 t1_je69lyg wrote

It could be considered consultancy if the AGI is capable of individual thought. Companies have some longer-term objectives but tend to focus their efforts on short-term gains to please investors.
There will be plenty of discussion around the ethics of using AGI in business. Whether it can be called "slavery" will depend on how like a human AGI turns out to be.

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Shiningc OP t1_je67axg wrote

And why do you think companies are using their own computing power to lease the AI? Because they know that it's just something that is "moderately useful", but not revolutionary.

The "AI" can't exactly answer questions in a unique way like "How do I outsmart and destroy Microsoft?". If it was a smart person, then maybe he/she could. So would a company lease a smart person, even if it made them money?

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