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Iffykindofguy t1_je6c1w7 wrote
Reply to comment by ICOTrenderdotcom in Do you think the first humans on Proxima B could be convicts? by gonzo1483
Impossible to say. It is unlikely, especially in terms of a single lifespan its almost impossible that would happen unless we have some incredible developments in life extension. Which is possible. You're way too over confident.
infidel_castro_26 t1_je6auii wrote
Reply to comment by tnic73 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
i mean in a very broad term that won't offend anyone it is the mode of production that begun around the 16th or 17th century. by mode of production you can also think of it as a way to organise the economy.
biggest parts of this system are centred around which private property, markets and firms. And principally capital.
everything after that is partly controversial. i have my own thoughts. that i'll mostly keep to myself. but i just want to justify why i said what i said.
>Companies will still sell products, bills will still have to be paid, money will still have to be exchanged (for example, for robotaxis). All of these will cost money and require capitalism in order to operate
there are still ways to bend or break capitalism (depending on your viewpoint) and keep these things. that's partly why i bring this up. people sometimes believe using money == capitalism. which is obviously not true as we've had money much longer than capitalism.
capitalism is a specific system defined by all its parts and their relationship. it's a complicated moving system.
>before anyone says “the government will provide everything” planned / government run economies don’t work and history shows that
history shows that robots do not work. every attempt so far has failed. i'm not putting forward this argument to say that a completely panned economy is the way. just to show how the logic is faulty.
>if everything was run by the government that would basically stifle innovation
this is a pretty clear indicator that the poster is presenting his understanding of a dichotomy that just does not really exist. that is either we have a non-capitalist mode of production where the government runs everything or we have what we have now.
personally i don't even disagree with the overall point OP is making. there's nothing incompatible with a real abundance in everything including labour and market dynamics. it's just i'm pretty pessimistic about what that would entail.
we're already seeing the ever-shrinking pool of ownership. i don't see why that wouldn't continue until even our last illusionary safety ladder of labour and hard work is taken away.
Alaishana t1_je6akbb wrote
Reply to comment by Tripwir62 in Does ChatGPT have a sense of humor? by Tripwir62
In the end, you are asking 'What exactly is a qualia?"
And this is not answerable.
Not even... no: SPECIFICALLY, not by an AI.
Iffykindofguy t1_je6a2vt wrote
Reply to comment by voreteks in Dude, Where’s My Future? by [deleted]
Stay on that grind culture, Im sure youll reach 10k subscribers soon.
Iffykindofguy t1_je69xz5 wrote
Reply to comment by voreteks in Dude, Where’s My Future? by [deleted]
No one, because of the privileges I experience in this broken system I have the access and free time to see it for what it is.
Iffykindofguy t1_je69uzs wrote
Reply to comment by tnic73 in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
Capitalism is a scam thats robbing you and your kids of their futures. Watch that video to get started on learning why.
ovirt001 t1_je69lyg wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Would a corporation realistically release an AGI to the public? by Shiningc
It could be considered consultancy if the AGI is capable of individual thought. Companies have some longer-term objectives but tend to focus their efforts on short-term gains to please investors.
There will be plenty of discussion around the ethics of using AGI in business. Whether it can be called "slavery" will depend on how like a human AGI turns out to be.
Shiningc OP t1_je692xt wrote
Reply to comment by ovirt001 in Would a corporation realistically release an AGI to the public? by Shiningc
I think that would be called a "brain drain" or "poaching". I mean sure they can do that, but it's short-sighted and won't be good for them in the long run.
It might be possible for the companies to lease the "dumb" AGIs but keep all the "smart" ones to themselves. But at this point it's basically a slave trade.
ovirt001 t1_je68vab wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Would a corporation realistically release an AGI to the public? by Shiningc
As long as the "smart person" is making money, they aren't going to care. Using that smart person to dominate all industries would be ludicrously difficult and put the company at a disadvantage to any other company that has a similar "smart person" but chooses to lease their time.
MatoKoukku t1_je68rrq wrote
Reply to comment by boersc in New cars sold in EU must be zero-emission from 2035 by Vucea
It’s 2035, 12 years from now. Countries like Norway have been leading the pack today.
There’s plenty of opportunities in biogas etc with existing tech.
azuriasia t1_je68rcg wrote
Reply to comment by Bewaretheicespiders in Are there AI theorists/philosophers who have already thought out sensible rules for how to best regulate AI development? by dryuhyr
People work more hours now than medieval peasants. Your analogy is laughably achronistic
Bewaretheicespiders t1_je688hj wrote
Reply to comment by azuriasia in Are there AI theorists/philosophers who have already thought out sensible rules for how to best regulate AI development? by dryuhyr
The fact that you dont still work 120 hours a week in a field says otherwise.
Shiningc OP t1_je67p5i wrote
Reply to comment by ovirt001 in Would a corporation realistically release an AGI to the public? by Shiningc
But no company actually leases a smart person. It would want to keep the smart person loyal to the company and working for the company.
[deleted] t1_je67o6m wrote
Reply to comment by cursedbones in Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
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gonzo1483 OP t1_je67o55 wrote
Reply to comment by tykeoldboy in Do you think the first humans on Proxima B could be convicts? by gonzo1483
LOL We should hope so if humanity will survive indefinitely.
azuriasia t1_je67mhy wrote
Reply to comment by Bewaretheicespiders in Are there AI theorists/philosophers who have already thought out sensible rules for how to best regulate AI development? by dryuhyr
And none of them had the immediate job displacing potential that ai does.
ovirt001 t1_je67kko wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Would a corporation realistically release an AGI to the public? by Shiningc
Yes, to the highest bidder. A "smart person" equivalent AI is still a very long way from 10,000 average people.
Bewaretheicespiders t1_je67b7b wrote
Reply to comment by azuriasia in Are there AI theorists/philosophers who have already thought out sensible rules for how to best regulate AI development? by dryuhyr
There had never been anything like the tractor, the computer, the internet...
Shiningc OP t1_je67axg wrote
Reply to comment by ovirt001 in Would a corporation realistically release an AGI to the public? by Shiningc
And why do you think companies are using their own computing power to lease the AI? Because they know that it's just something that is "moderately useful", but not revolutionary.
The "AI" can't exactly answer questions in a unique way like "How do I outsmart and destroy Microsoft?". If it was a smart person, then maybe he/she could. So would a company lease a smart person, even if it made them money?
gonzo1483 OP t1_je678pj wrote
Reply to comment by ICOTrenderdotcom in Do you think the first humans on Proxima B could be convicts? by gonzo1483
I think human DNA will need to be able hop to younger planet systems if humanity isn't to extinguish along with the sun.
tykeoldboy t1_je66rzw wrote
If the first humans on Proxima B were convicts, their first generation offspring would return to Earth and beat us at cricket
[deleted] t1_je66od7 wrote
Reply to Is capitalism REALLY going to disappear? by Phoenix5869
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azuriasia t1_je66kf1 wrote
Reply to comment by Bewaretheicespiders in Are there AI theorists/philosophers who have already thought out sensible rules for how to best regulate AI development? by dryuhyr
There has never been anything close to AI.
ovirt001 t1_je668ur wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Would a corporation realistically release an AGI to the public? by Shiningc
I'm aware. It's a precursor, we don't actually know where the line is for AGI.
JefferyTheQuaxly t1_je6e1zo wrote
Reply to comment by ICOTrenderdotcom in Do you think the first humans on Proxima B could be convicts? by gonzo1483
wouldnt it theoretically be possible for robots to travel that far, build up factories and teraform to modify it to humans, and use frozen human eggs and semen to create test tube babies? couldnt they also modify the genes of those babies to help them survive easier? and have lifelike possibly AI robots help raise the first generation of humans? like i agree sending humans that far away oesnt make much sense but i think it could be possible if robotics and/or AI was advanced enough. and it still close enough to recieve reports back to earth, so maybe we could send instructions back to the robots every decade or something and see how progress is going.
now teraforming worlds and building up cities would likely take a ton of time, so it might be centuries before the babies would be incubated. tho we could always send the eggs and semen after the initial building robots so the eggs and semen arent super old, idk how long frozen eggs and semen could potentially last.