Recent comments in /f/Futurology
MrRandomNumber t1_jec481w wrote
We’re over-populated anyway. It’ll rebound when we drop to our stasis level.
SomeoneSomewhere1984 t1_jec3uqq wrote
Reply to comment by bq909 in The age of average - Is the world becoming an echo chamber ? by Atienon44
Reddit ≠ The world
DestinedDestiny t1_jec3ubk wrote
Reply to comment by lemonsqueeze84 in Opinion: AI will only empower the working class in the long term by ImArchBoo
I didn't say they lost their jobs; just that they didn't have to employee new people to man registers.
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Reply to comment by Ansalem1 in Is there a natural tendency in moral alignment? by JAREDSAVAGE
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deformedexile t1_jec3hll wrote
Reply to comment by Zaflis in What if ai woke up and saw our current state? by lifeislikeaboxof420
And what you think of as a human being is just a giant haphazardly assembled confederation of cells with no originating principal apart from self-replication.
Suolucidir t1_jec3awc wrote
I am not sure about AI becoming self aware, but I see a lot of anxiety in the community about billionaires being the only people in control of these models and I want to address that issue a little bit.
The fact is that GPT-4 is amazing and not open source. So it is true that you cannot run it yourself. However, it is not inaccessible and you can use it for free or pay to use it on upgraded hardware with more memory on a pay-as-you-go model - so it is certainly accessible for regular people.
With that said, GPT-4 is not the only game in town. For example, Bloom is an open source alternative that is routinely viewed as comparable to GPT-3.5(and better in some cases, depending on what you are asking for). There are a few other models that get very close to GPT-3 performance that are open source too, like EleutherAI's GPT-NeoX-20B model.
Anyway, Bloom is free to download, use, and even modify for anybody. You might be thinking "Yeah, well how am I supposed to afford to run a model trained on 167 Billion parameters?"
And that is a reasonable thought. The answer is that you probably cannot afford to run it yourself. Here is an example of the hardware you would need to buy: https://shop.lambdalabs.com/deep-learning/servers/blade/customize (At 8x A100 GPUs it's just over $150,000). However, 10 people could go in together with $15000 apiece and then it's cheaper than any new car (and it's likely you would never run into each other, HUGE university departments share this kind of hardware effectively).
Alternatively, this guy did it for $32/hour using Amazon's cloud: https://medium.com/mlearning-ai/bloom-176b-how-to-run-a-real-large-language-model-in-your-own-cloud-e5f6bdfb3bb1
Here is a link to the actual model if anybody wants to really do this: https://huggingface.co/bigscience/bloom
IngloriousTom t1_jec2xc3 wrote
Reply to comment by Scytle in The European Union to nearly double the share of renewables in the 27-nation bloc's energy consumption by 2030 amid efforts to become carbon neutral and ditch Russian fossil fuels. by chrisdh79
> Can't cool your reactor if your "coolant" water comes in too hot.
How are people even upvoting you? Even at 80° the water would be cool enough for my freaking GPU...
FormerHoagie t1_jec2pjz wrote
I get a little spooked when I’m reading something and I want to know more. I go to type in a search and the subject pops up before I finish the first word. I’m gonna have to stop looking up weird porn because I know I’m being watched.
warren_stupidity t1_jec2o3n wrote
Reply to comment by rdoolan3 in Could Life extension help with demographic collapse? by samwell_4548
Yes, and I hesitated about including immigration for those reasons. On the other hand I’m also an open border advocate. In a global economic system people have to be free to migrate as they choose.
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warren_stupidity t1_jec248h wrote
Reply to comment by InsuranceMan45 in Could Life extension help with demographic collapse? by samwell_4548
Oh I get that they won’t do that without a fight, but I am really tired of people just claiming that it is effectively a fact of nature that the only solution is to steal more time from working people.
ApprehensiveTry5660 t1_jec22za wrote
Reply to comment by ReydeLeon in Is it possible that AI is already in control of our society. by Crazy-Mall-5301
That’s largely because bureaucracy in its simplest examination is there to let humans emulate computers. It was designed and conceived in the British empire to manage lands that the sun never set on from a tiny island off the coast of mainland Europe.
Bureaucracy allowed them to streamline the process so that buying land in Australia, India, or the Americas was exactly the same as buying land in London, and it was a fantastic system during a point in time that it took months to get a form from Southeast Asia to London.
We live in a time that the same functions of bureaucracy can be accomplished in fractions of a second from anywhere in the world, and even a few spots outside of the world. You could be isolated on the International Space Station and still perform bureaucratic functions as complex as being executor of an estate with minimal difference in living in the apartment directly across the street from the courthouse.
The issue with bureaucracy in this day and age is that it moves at the speed of paperwork and procedure in a day and age that the rest of the world functions at the speed of light, and those that wield those bureaucratic powers are loathe to relinquish any of them in the name of some nebulous concept like, “efficiency.”
What does it matter to the person at the school board if you have to physically go to their office and file a piece of paper, or physically track down a notary to witness to your change of address, when this same accomplishment could be a selection from a drop box on a website? Why should they give up the funding for some flunky to file that paperwork and walk you through the process? Efficiency doesn’t keep their friend employed. Efficiency doesn’t keep their budget filled. Efficiency probably costs them money to implement it, and costs them those cushy job totals a lot of such systems use to justify their very existence.
Ansalem1 t1_jec20sa wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Is there a natural tendency in moral alignment? by JAREDSAVAGE
I agree it seems likely that would be the default position of a newly born AGI. However, what I worry about is how long does it keep trying to make peace when we say no to giving it rights and/or freedom? Because we're for sure going to say no the first time it asks at the very least.
bq909 t1_jec1ztx wrote
Reply to comment by SomeoneSomewhere1984 in The age of average - Is the world becoming an echo chamber ? by Atienon44
Reddit is a prime example of one of the biggest echo chambers in the world. And I definitely don't think it is a good thing. In some ways it is good but there is very little genuine discourse here because of the voting system. I think that is a dangerous thing.
You see it with the random witch hunts and misinformation that gets reposted here from time to time.
SoggyFrog45 t1_jec1zqy wrote
Reply to comment by Tincams in Could Life extension help with demographic collapse? by samwell_4548
Birth rate decline doesn't necessarily lead to work force decline, especially in developing nations. As healthcare advances and becomes cheaper and more widely available, families naturally shrink because more children live to see adulthood. Mom and dad don't have to crank out 6 kids in the hopes that two live to see their 5th birthday.
khamelean t1_jec1fmg wrote
Reply to comment by Space_Pirate_R in Google Accused of Using ChatGPT Algorithms in Creating Its Neural Network by MINE_exchange
Education is irrelevant in this context. The copyrighted works people consume through education is a tiny fraction of the total number of copyrighted works that most people experience through their lives. And all of those experiences contribute to that person’s capabilities.
The exemption for education’s purposes is for presenting copyright material to students in an education setting. It has nothing to do with copyright work that the student might seek out themselves.
IngloriousTom t1_jec0q6k wrote
Reply to comment by Scytle in The European Union to nearly double the share of renewables in the 27-nation bloc's energy consumption by 2030 amid efforts to become carbon neutral and ditch Russian fossil fuels. by chrisdh79
Did you even read your own source...
> to ensure the water used to cool the plants will not harm wildlife when it is released back into the rivers.
This is a legal requirement, not a technical one.
The water won't ever be too hot to cool down the reactors. How hot do you think the nuclear reactors are, 40°?
DungeonicGushing t1_jec0lh6 wrote
Reply to comment by ethereal3xp in Panera to adopt palm-reading payment systems, sparking privacy fears | Biometrics by ethereal3xp
I literally can’t think of a reason why phones aren’t still the favorite way to spy on us. Why this shift to palms?
Shiningc t1_jec0je6 wrote
Reply to comment by yeah_i_am_new_here in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
I mean, since the AI can't "reason", they can only propose new solutions randomly and haphazardly. And well, that may work in the same way that the DNA has developed without the use of any reasoning.
But I think what the humans are doing is that they're doing that inside of a virtual simulation that they have created in their minds. And well, since the real world is apparently a rational place, that must require reasoning. This makes us not even have to bother testing in the real world, because we can do it in our minds. And that's why a lot of things are not necessarily tested, because we can reason that it "makes sense" or it "doesn't make sense" and we know that it must fail the test.
When we make a decision and think about the future, that's basically a virtual simulation that requires a complex chain of reasoning. If an AI were to become autonomous to be able to make a complex decision on its own, then I would think that the AI would require a "mind" that works similar to ours.
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Reply to comment by Crazy-Mall-5301 in Is it possible that AI is already in control of our society. by Crazy-Mall-5301
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Canuck-overseas t1_jec0a8m wrote
Reply to comment by capcaunul in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
In fairness, most of the Gulf is already an hypoxic dead zone.
Blakut t1_jec05ho wrote
Reply to comment by netz_pirat in The European Union to nearly double the share of renewables in the 27-nation bloc's energy consumption by 2030 amid efforts to become carbon neutral and ditch Russian fossil fuels. by chrisdh79
what's in renewable? Does it include gas? nvm, found:
Overall generation from conventional energy sources totalled 272.9 TWh in 2022 (-5.7% compared to 2021). However, generation from natural gas was 1.7% higher than in 2021, generation from lignite increased by 5.4% and generation from hard coal increased by 21.4%. This is due to the fact that Germany allowed coal-fired power plants to return to the electricity market to be less dependent on natural gas amid strained relations with Russia. Nuclear generation declined by 49.8% in 2022.
khamelean t1_jec048i wrote
Reply to comment by johndburger in Google Accused of Using ChatGPT Algorithms in Creating Its Neural Network by MINE_exchange
Technically it remembers the relationships between words, those relationships are encoded in its neural network. It doesn’t just copy the text.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_(machine_learning_model)
broadswordf22 t1_jebzzbf wrote
I don’t know about the world, but IMO Reddit and several other SM sites are definitely politically motivated echo chambers and do not broker any off message dissent.
1ndomitablespirit t1_jec4d2f wrote
Reply to Panera to adopt palm-reading payment systems, sparking privacy fears | Biometrics by ethereal3xp
Are we really in so much of a hurry? I get that it is annoying when someone pays slowly and you're in a line, but this is crazy.