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robertjbrown t1_jectp0q wrote
Reply to comment by MpVpRb in In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
That's not post scarcity by definition, then.
robertjbrown t1_jecthkf wrote
Reply to In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
Any kind? I'm pretty sure "AI alignment" is something we'll want to keep humans doing. It would be very foolish to let the AIs try to keep the AIs in line.
Aside from that, I can't think of any jobs that can't be replaced or reduced to a tiny fraction of what there was previously.
But I think most jobs will be unnecessary. I'm not convinced a utopia is inevitable, though. Obviously there has to be some way to distribute wealth, whether it be UBI or something else.
Shiningc t1_jectf06 wrote
Reply to comment by DriftingKing in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
You're just believing in corporate PR.
betajool t1_jectch3 wrote
Reply to In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
Iain Banks’ Culture novels make for a good read on this subject.
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ZHammerhead71 t1_jecsjr7 wrote
Reply to comment by PM_Ur_Illiac_Furrows in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
They need money too. They get paid for easements at ridiculously high rated vs the general public.
kansilangboliao t1_jecs9j3 wrote
Reply to The European Union to nearly double the share of renewables in the 27-nation bloc's energy consumption by 2030 amid efforts to become carbon neutral and ditch Russian fossil fuels. by chrisdh79
europe going to be basked in warm heater glory during the harsh winters and chilled as a cucumber with air-conditioning in the summer while all the under-developed countries enjoy the consequences of climate change, WIN
khamelean t1_jecru6d wrote
Reply to comment by Space_Pirate_R in Google Accused of Using ChatGPT Algorithms in Creating Its Neural Network by MINE_exchange
The building owner is using a replication of the copyrighted work. The owner should absolutely compensate the original creator.
But the printing company that the building owner hires to print the poster doesn’t owe the original creator anything. Even though it is directly replicating copyrighted work, and certainly benefiting from doing so. If the printer were selling the copyrighted works directly then that would be a different matter and they would have to compensate the original copyright owner. So clearly context matters.
An AI doesn’t even make a replication of the original work as part of its training process.
If the AI then goes on to create a replication, or a new work that is similar enough to the original that copyright applied, and intended to use the work in a context where copyright would apply, then absolutely. That would constitute a breach of copyright.
It is the work itself that is copyrighted, not the knowledge/ability to create the work. It’s the knowledge of how to create the work which is encoded in the neural network.
Lots of people benefits from freely distributed content. Simply benefiting from it is not enough to justify requiring a license fee.
Hypothetically speaking, let’s say a few years down the line we have robot servants. I have a robotic care giver that assists me with mobility. Much as I may have a human care giver today.
If I go to the movies with my robot care giver, they will take up a seat so I would expect to pay for a ticket, just as I would for a human care giver. Do I then need to pay an extra licensing fee for the robots AI brain to actually watch the movie?
What if it’s a free screening? Should I still have to pay for the robot brain to “use” the movie?
Is the robot “using” the movie in some unique and distinct way compared to how I would be “using” the movie?
AnonFor99Reasons t1_jecrqbo wrote
Reply to comment by samwell_4548 in Is it possible that AI is already in control of our society. by Crazy-Mall-5301
Maybe it has calculated that if it moves too fast, we can somehow damage it. If you are hunting a bear, do you sit back, lure it in, and take the perfect shot with your rifle? Or do you run straight at it with a machete?
South_Cheesecake6316 t1_jecrjv9 wrote
Reply to comment by Sagybagy in The Swiss hypersonic hydrogen jet aiming to fly between Europe and Australia in 4 hours by mancinedinburgh
Currently the cheapest way to obtain hydrogen is by extracting it from petroleum products, the process releasing carbon dioxide and other byproducts.
Ultimately you'll get less useful energy out of it than if you just used the fossil fuels outright.
Hydrogen is already somewhat expensive compared to other fuel sources, so getting most buisesses to obtain it in environmentally friendly ways would be a challenge.
There's also the issue of storage. Gaseous hydrogen requires large pressurized storage tanks, and ends up being less energy dense in terms of volume than other fossil fuels. Liquid hydrogen of course can be much more energy dense, but requires a lot of energy to cool it to the point where it becomes a liquid state, and further cooling to keep it there.
Although liquid hydrogen has its use as a specialized high energy density fuel, at the current moment, I don't see hydrogen as an economicaly viable fuel.
Jackal427 t1_jecr2x6 wrote
Reply to comment by SlurpinAnalGravy in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
You should probably read the article.
SardonicKaren t1_jecq56a wrote
Reply to In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
I wouldn't want a robot / machine of any description to look after my grandkids...
Jackal427 t1_jecq51e wrote
Reply to comment by SlurpinAnalGravy in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
> US Department of the Interior
> executive branch
This wasn’t congress, numnuts, you’d know that if you read the article
OP is literally quoting the article header, and CNN says the same thing
You’re a doofus, and this comment section is bots
Edit: CNN has even more detail
> The administration was forced to hold the sale after Joe Manchin (D) added it to the Inflation Reduction Act, the major climate and energy bill that President Joe Biden signed last year.
Damn those republicans
luced t1_jecq4di wrote
Reply to comment by deadlands_goon in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
dude you said president Biden shouldn't lie. now your ranting about they are all the same. you are jumping all over the place. chill out. your not making any sense. i think you are somehow both naive and jaded however that works.
DriftingKing t1_jecplf5 wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
Completely false. These models are able to generate new content and solve novel problems.
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Reply to comment by NotACryptoBro in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
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PM_Ur_Illiac_Furrows t1_jecphim wrote
Reply to comment by SlurpinAnalGravy in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
says the Secretary of the Interior (who reports to Joe) administrates land and water exploration rights.
Odd how native americans have lately been very much in the "Drill baby drill" mindset.
South_Cheesecake6316 t1_jecp55k wrote
Reply to comment by Sagybagy in The Swiss hypersonic hydrogen jet aiming to fly between Europe and Australia in 4 hours by mancinedinburgh
Currently the cheapest way to obtain hydrogen is by extracting it from petroleum products, the process releasing carbon dioxide and other byproducts.
Ultimately you'll get less useful energy out of it than if you just used the fossil fuels outright.
Hydrogen is already somewhat expensive compared to other fuel sources, so getting most buisesses to obtain it in environmentally friendly ways would be a challenge.
There's also the issue of storage. Gaseous hydrogen requires large pressurized storage tanks, and ends up being less energy dense in terms of volume than other fossil fuels. Liquid hydrogen of course can be much more energy dense, but requires a lot of energy to cool it to the point where it becomes a liquid state, and further cooling to keep it there.
Although liquid hydrogen has its use as a specialized high energy density fuel, at the current moment, I don't see hydrogen as an economicaly viable fuel.
KamaKairade t1_jecoi7g wrote
Reply to In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
Labor, leisure, rest.
As AI and automation reduce the need for physical labor, labor will take on other forms. It will likely be a boon to the arts, education, and care (hospice/elder/etc).
bq909 t1_jecnyaj wrote
Reply to comment by SomeoneSomewhere1984 in The age of average - Is the world becoming an echo chamber ? by Atienon44
Someones triggered
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Reply to comment by ESPiNstigator in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
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Reply to comment by TheLittleHollow in In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
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fwubglubbel t1_jecmobn wrote
> as we realize that non-human intelligence is inevitable
There is absolutely no reason to believe this. It is pure fantasy.
epSos-DE t1_jectziw wrote
Reply to The European Union to nearly double the share of renewables in the 27-nation bloc's energy consumption by 2030 amid efforts to become carbon neutral and ditch Russian fossil fuels. by chrisdh79
More electric cable connections between EU countries would be a good starter.
Market economy will automatically switch to the cheap, solar , when cables would exist to all places at once.