Recent comments in /f/Futurology
agaperion t1_jed840r wrote
Reply to comment by dja_ra in Futurology CMV - We are probably never going to see the changes envisioned by AI enthusiasts. by dja_ra
If you've ever read Intuition Pumps And Other Tools For Thinking by Daniel Dennett then you may recall his idea of the Surely Alarm. Basically, when somebody speaks the word surely, they're usually implicitly asking you to grant them an assumption on which the rest of their argument rests. I've extended this notion to a number of other concepts for which I've set other mental alarms and the word utopia is one of them. When I encounter it, there's a little voice in the back of my mind reminding me that the word means "no place" - i.e. it doesn't exist.
Achieving a perfect society is impossible and it's foolish to think of perfection as anything other than an ideal. Just as with personal growth, so too is social progress a perpetual process. There's no final solution. No finish line. There will always be room for improvement. That's why we've evolved practices like reformism and incrementalism, as opposed to radicalism or revolutionism. Because real progress - meaningful, lasting progress - happens gradually. A discovery here. An innovation there. A social program there. And all these things compound and interact to create new discoveries and innovations and reforms. Over and over until, eventually, we take a step back and notice how much better off things are. Like going to the gym every day but not noticing the progress for weeks or months at a time.
Frankly, you'll do yourself a favor staying away from cynics and doomers like the people who hang out in places like r/collapse. Run with the dogs and you're gonna get fleas. Take control of your information diet. Be selective about the things you put in your head and the mental habits you cultivate. In the motorcycle world, there's a saying that you go where you look. If you fixate on the pothole or swerving car then you're going to ride into it and crash. Focus on the route you want to ride.
DriftingKing t1_jed7pih wrote
Reply to comment by robdogcronin in CAIDP asks FTC to halt release of OpenAI's new GPT model by No_Goose2198
What the other guy said is true though. Way too late to stop this now.
SlurpinAnalGravy t1_jed7kuv wrote
Reply to comment by Celtictussle in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
You know what. Fair play.
They also report to Congress, who controls their budget. Who created them. Who can dissolve them. Who has the final say in their activities.
But blame sleepy joe amirite?
There's a lot of reasons to hate our president, this ain't it.
Celtictussle t1_jed7hgp wrote
Reply to comment by SlurpinAnalGravy in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
Nothing you said contradicts anything I said.
SlurpinAnalGravy t1_jed6sfi wrote
Reply to comment by Jackal427 in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
The BLM is required to provide regular reports to Congress on its activities, budget, and performance, as well as to respond to requests for information or testimony from congressional committees. Congress also has the power to authorize and appropriate funds for the BLM's operations and programs, and to conduct oversight and investigations of the agency's activities.
How about you delete yours?
SlurpinAnalGravy t1_jed6qd0 wrote
Reply to comment by Jackal427 in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
The BLM is required to provide regular reports to Congress on its activities, budget, and performance, as well as to respond to requests for information or testimony from congressional committees. Congress also has the power to authorize and appropriate funds for the BLM's operations and programs, and to conduct oversight and investigations of the agency's activities.
SlurpinAnalGravy t1_jed6pmb wrote
Reply to comment by Jackal427 in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
When did I ever say that?
The BLM is required to provide regular reports to Congress on its activities, budget, and performance, as well as to respond to requests for information or testimony from congressional committees. Congress also has the power to authorize and appropriate funds for the BLM's operations and programs, and to conduct oversight and investigations of the agency's activities.
Educate yourself.
SlurpinAnalGravy t1_jed6la3 wrote
Reply to comment by Celtictussle in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
The BLM is required to provide regular reports to Congress on its activities, budget, and performance, as well as to respond to requests for information or testimony from congressional committees. Congress also has the power to authorize and appropriate funds for the BLM's operations and programs, and to conduct oversight and investigations of the agency's activities.
Talk about confidently ignorant.
jphamlore t1_jed6jka wrote
Reply to comment by robertjbrown in In a post-scarcity utopia, is there a real necessity of human labor of any kind? by kvothekevin
A robot can do many specialized tasks as good as if not better than a human.
I'm not convinced even with Singularity-type progress a robot can be developed that will do all of the tasks a caretaker does.
Amazing_Secret7107 t1_jed5vyv wrote
Reply to What will be the future of CAPTCHA in a world where progress in ML/AI continues at this rapid rate? by too_damn_fast
Wasn't the point of captcha to train early image recognition/ai algorithms? We've caught up, if your scenario is going to be true. A new versioning will be required.
dja_ra OP t1_jed5i2q wrote
Reply to comment by agaperion in Futurology CMV - We are probably never going to see the changes envisioned by AI enthusiasts. by dja_ra
It's true that Europe's most fruitful years happened after the black death. I did post this because I have been in a r/collapse type funk and find myself irritated at all the "AI is going to bring Utopia" type posts.
bluntisimo t1_jed5a8d wrote
Reply to Futurology CMV - We are probably never going to see the changes envisioned by AI enthusiasts. by dja_ra
Jobs are just going to get more non-essential. I bet during every big change in tech people think we will not have anything to do but we will innovate and create a job market even if there is not a need for one.
I think people are just surprised it is doing so well, it was supposed to be self-driving cars, VR and robotics that were on the horizon, but these language models kind of caught everyone with their pants down but there is nothing to support this tech even if it does become useful soon.
Most of the fear I have heard has been about developing the tech too fast and not so much about job loss because I think that would take a lot of time to even evaluate what this thing is capable of replacing let alone build the structure for it to exist in.
Think touch screens in mcdonalds and how long that took to roll out.
dja_ra OP t1_jed55yc wrote
Reply to comment by Closetpunkrocker in Futurology CMV - We are probably never going to see the changes envisioned by AI enthusiasts. by dja_ra
I know that they do. But I think they are too enthusiastic about the where this will ultimately lead. I think that societies' problems will lead us to a hard stop at some point, and none of these questions will matter then.
redduif t1_jed5346 wrote
Reply to comment by skalouKerbal in The EU Parliament and Council agree to mandate charging stations every 60km by 2026 by filosoful
They dont charge 0,20 €/W at charging stations, rather 0,60 €/W...
agaperion t1_jed4zu1 wrote
Reply to Futurology CMV - We are probably never going to see the changes envisioned by AI enthusiasts. by dja_ra
It depends what kind of conversation you want to have. If you want to talk about what's possible then I believe all that great stuff is on the table. If you want to talk about what's likely or what it just so happens to seem is going to happen from where we stand right now then I admit that things often appear pretty bleak. But then again, we've got to be mindful of our negativity biases and availability biases and the limitations of human attention and imagination. In learning about history, I've noticed that fearing it's the end of the world is a common occurrence for nearly every human generation. The current one's no more or less millenarianist than any of the others. Here's a bit of light reading on that, if you like.
robdogcronin t1_jed4riv wrote
Reply to comment by outragedUSAcitizen in CAIDP asks FTC to halt release of OpenAI's new GPT model by No_Goose2198
I'm not concerned because of "human" ethical values, I'm just egotistically worried that unaligned super intelligence will shorten my life
Closetpunkrocker t1_jed4nrn wrote
Reply to Futurology CMV - We are probably never going to see the changes envisioned by AI enthusiasts. by dja_ra
Did we know where the iPod would take society in the beginning? Nope. Look at us now. The question is, are we on the verge of another technology revolution that changes life as we know it? A lot of people think “yes.”
SupremeEscape t1_jed4hbc wrote
Reply to comment by too_damn_fast in What will be the future of CAPTCHA in a world where progress in ML/AI continues at this rapid rate? by too_damn_fast
Imagine a human authenticates it then ai creates content but human posts it? Wouldn’t fix your ai generated content problem
outragedUSAcitizen t1_jed4biv wrote
Reply to comment by robdogcronin in CAIDP asks FTC to halt release of OpenAI's new GPT model by No_Goose2198
The cat is out of the bag. You think other counties are going to pause because of your "human" ethical issues?
too_damn_fast OP t1_jed42df wrote
Reply to comment by SupremeEscape in What will be the future of CAPTCHA in a world where progress in ML/AI continues at this rapid rate? by too_damn_fast
Yes, it would be an invasion of privacy. But it's looking more and more like the internet could possibly be filled with AI generated content in a few years and I can't think of an alternative way for businesses and government to authenticate humans.
[deleted] t1_jed3bpo wrote
Reply to comment by Shiningc in Thought experiment: we're only [x] # of hardware improvements away from "AGI" by yeah_i_am_new_here
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Jackal427 t1_jed371x wrote
Reply to comment by SlurpinAnalGravy in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
Gonna have to record this stupidity for when this guy deletes his comment.
> If you all took the time to do a single Google search you'd see that the Bureau of Land Management is an agency within the United States Department of the Interior, and as such, it is accountable to Congress through the Secretary of the Interior.
One single google search later:
> The Department of the Interior is headed by the secretary of the interior, who reports directly to the president of the United States and is a member of the president's Cabinet.
Jackal427 t1_jed2q0f wrote
Reply to comment by Celtictussle in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
Yup, this guy has some serious selective Googling skills. It takes a special kind of stupid to confidently claim something a 10 second search proves false.
SupremeEscape t1_jed29wi wrote
Reply to What will be the future of CAPTCHA in a world where progress in ML/AI continues at this rapid rate? by too_damn_fast
I used to use software to buy sneakers and the developers would either have AI solvers or captcha bypass built in.
It’s not far reach but I think that would be an invasion of privacy
Knichols2176 t1_jed8gdx wrote
Reply to comment by SlurpinAnalGravy in US puts Italy-sized chunk of Gulf of Mexico up for auction for oil drilling by capcaunul
Sorry, but I can’t help but read this in Jennifer Coolidge voice.. white lotus vibes here.. “I thought it was Black Lives Matter! I thought you were like me! Who would guess it’s Bureau of Land fucking Management!”