Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania

EveArgent t1_jdx7sx7 wrote

Yeah. It's like they do it on purpose so that we don't get together and fight them for basic human rights or something like France right now.

Thanks for being a cool guy and having an open mind for conversation to happen. I'm glad I could be a cool person in this exchange too. Our country really has a yelling at people problem and I think it's very unproductive and divisive.

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SeptasLate t1_jdx15q2 wrote

There's ways to complain about this situation without using the tragedy for people to get on a soapbox about their preferred political issue.

Better workers/unemployment benefits are needed and important but we don't even know what unemployment/benefits the workers will have access to. People are fired up over a hypothetical.

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T_tessa41 t1_jdwzvxr wrote

Please allow me to clarify. The employees held a fundraiser for the fire department. The fire department did not release any balloons. They were busy dealing with search and rescue. I’m not even sure the ballon portion was with the fundraiser or a separate thing. I personally would have delivered coffee, water, snacks to the firefighters…. But hey, their hearts were in the right place ?!?! Maybe?

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gruntville OP t1_jdwyjqg wrote

My original question was based on a lifetime of observation as a PA resident and current federal LEO. I keep hearing they are trying to push for Sheriffs to have more LE authority, but have heard it for years. I actually think it’s a great idea, if for nothing more then strictly more rural counties. What always struck me as weird though is that they don’t even run the jails, and I’ve heard in random counties they do functional as patrol officers and answer 911 calls(which I can’t confirm first hand; counties like Tioga for example).

Additionally hearing information like what another poster here stated(that his sheriffs dept in pa runs the jail)which would suggest legally they can(patrol, 911 responce and run county jail) yet we keep hearing debates over legal authority, roles, historical and current, their certification vs Act 120(municipal police certification), etc. All of which feeds back into why is this not much more common, as in most other states, or at the very least more widespread?

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MortimerDongle t1_jdwwkkw wrote

State police are the default law enforcement in PA, and as far as I know that has been the case as long as the state police have existed.

Ultimately, sheriff's deputies are the officers of the courts - not cops. Sheriff's deputies can be (but are not necessarily required to be) fully qualified law enforcement officers but routine law enforcement is outside the scope of their duties. Deputies are eligible to serve in interdepartmental law enforcement groups like regional SWAT teams.

"We're a Commonwealth" comes up as a rumored explanation for a whole bunch of things, but it's legally meaningless.

There are a few other states (all in the northeast) where sheriff's deputies have a similar or even smaller role.

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