Yeah good luck with that 😂

Lol silly bot

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Comes with beans if the buyer requests just couple extra quid for a four pack of Heinz 😂

Cans of beans😭

Sorry bro gbp lol

Pounds? Dollars? Euros? Cans of beans?

And now look at marketshare of the consoles. How many people actually have a Series X?

Most of the GPUs you reference would’ve likely been bought when the PS4 was the main console, making them significantly more powerful than the main console available at the time.

This is the point you miss - we’re just two years in and are already about to hit price parity. In 2 more years the mainstream mid tier GPU will be significantly more powerful and a build will cost less.

The steam survey is also heavily influenced by price scalping caused during COVID/the mining boom. Consoles were hit by the same thing, but people are only given one option.

I got a PS4 slim 500mb with over half dozen games I'm gonna try to sell for 150-175 probably locally

Look at steam hardware survey and tell me if consoles are weaker than pc as a whole. Literally more than half of the pc community has worse gpu’s than the gpu you listed. You are a joke

If you think there isn’t optimisation needed anymore then you are truly delusional lol. Console optimization is very much a thing even because it’s much easier for devs to optimize for a system with a specific set of hardware instead of thousands of different configurations (like PC). Hogwarts isn’t the only recent release that has problems.. Witcher 3 updated version has a lot of stutter problems on PC, Elden Ring STILL has stutter issues.. Dead Space.. the list goes on and on, almost ALL games that get released these days have performance problems on PC and devs think they can just get away with poor optimization by slapping DLSS on all of their games. Truly if you think this is a non issue you either don’t play games or you’re just plain stupid. And guess what? None of these games have issues on console.

But of course, PC is the best place to play, right?

Also 900p25? have you been living under a stone? Current gen consoles have been hitting 60 fps on all new titles so far. And then I’m the one spreading misinformation, how ironic.

“Any game from any year designed for those platforms” yeah, slight problem there. A PC from 2017 can play current games. Can a One X? Nope. A PC from 2023 can play a game from 2013. Can a PS5? Nope. There goes that point. 🙈

Dude, you really aren’t getting this. A console IS a PC. You can spend the same amount now on a PC as a console and get THE SAME LONGEVITY. A console doesn’t miraculously have tonnes more power because it’s a console - the reason the OG Xbox One was able to play new games in 2020 is because the settings were far lower than the games it ran in 2013. You can do this on a PC too… in fact, you have more control over HOW you do this. A PC from 2021 with the same specs as an Xbox One can play Halo Infinite at the same quality. There goes that point.

“Sweaty fat kit” - and here come the personal attacks and petty comments. Clear sign your argument is falling apart if you can’t actually stick to the point.

“9/10 times PCs only have better graphical options” - you’ve never used a PC, have you? You can still set games to 640x480 buddy. There goes that argument. The point isn’t that consoles are weaker than PCs - it’s that the value gets worse. Both Microsoft and Sony have increased the price of their systems but PC hardware has gone down. Eventually you get to the point where better hardware on PC is actually cheaper. Why even buy a console at this point?

“Free Walmart service and cheaters” - wow. You know there’s cheaters on console too right? And you know we use the same servers you do as most are provided by the game devs? 🤦🏻‍♂️

“Backwards compatibility is another debate entirely” - no it isn’t, you just don’t want to prove how badly you’d lose that argument.

PC wasn’t the worst platform hahaha - now you’re just resorting to making up shit? It’s pretty well known that the Xbox One and PS4 were by far the worst platforms the game launched on. But please, underline every embarrassing point which destabilises your argument with a lie - makes them easy to spot. I guess you lied here because the fact the PS4 Pro and One X struggled so much would collapse your whole argument about “$400 once a decade” when they couldn’t manage a game 3 years after launch. What about the fact that a version of the game which actually used the extra PS5/Series X power you paid for took a year to come out?

“It’s always muh PC has better graphics” - dude my entire argument has been about consoles just being PCs and PCs being a better value at the same price with cheaper games and free online. I get you want to argue graphics as it’s an easy point to dismiss, but I’ve literally never mentioned that? It’s crazy how many weak strategies you’re trying here.

When was I telling you to quit having fun? You were the dude calling people enjoying PCs losers and sweaty fat kids 😂

“Shaming people for having consoles? Really?” Followed by “you sweaty fat boys in your mum’s basement”. I didn’t even know people could lack this much self awareness. You criticise me “shaming consoles” (which I never did, just pointed out they ARE PCs these days and PCs can save you money) and you proceed to shame and attack what you perceive to be PC gamers. Amazing, honestly. Especially when you follow up with “we contribute to society and you need hygiene products”

Truly amazing you spent an entire paragraph shitting and shaming on people and criticised what you perceived to be someone doing it themselves.

The fact you made this into an emotion-fuelled rant about society and hygiene suggests I touched a nerve? Maybe you should investigate that in therapy, possibly subconsciously you wish you could afford a PC and my comments are making you realise you could’ve, but didn’t do your research? And instead of accepting that, you go out and personally attack a group of gamers. I hope you get help.

Tf i dont care mate lol i was just saying what i do and people dislike it lol. Edit Plus you're on a sub called consoles and your beefing on me havi g one and doing my own thing on it lol

You know Game Pass is on PC too, right?

Regardless of your loophole you have to rely on mates to get, you still spend money PC gamers don’t have to for online play.

Yes, it does. The Series X is the highest end platform and it has a 3700x with a 6800 equivalent. The card you named is a midrange one two generations old, and the CPU is too generations old too. So yes, it has lower specs.

Yes, it does. The Series X is the highest end platform and it has a 3700x with a 6800 equivalent. The card you named is a midrange one two generations old, and the CPU is too generations old too. So yes, it has lower specs.

Stop posting the same misinformed nonsense and actually read my responses. There isn’t any “optimisation” really needed these days, consoles ARE PCs. That’s why lately this hasn’t really been talked about, and you’ve only revived this because of Hogwarts Legacy. Yawn.

But please, go enjoy your smooth 900p25 game and tell me it’s “optimised”.

Again, that’s literally one game. Check out MW2, it actually runs better on AMD GPUs because CONSOLES ARE PCs.

Most ports don’t need to be optimised any more because the console hardware is the same. Again, this isn’t the PS3/360 generation buddy. You kinda just proved you didn’t read my post.

You go play games at upscaled 900p25 buddy, but keep talking to me about “optimisation” 🤦🏻‍♂️

F that jump

Wdym? U don’t understand the console rivalries?

I thought 'Y'all' meant 'you all'? You all kids?

I'm not exactly techy or anything but I've got a i-5 12400F, Asus prime h610m-k, rtx 3050, 16gb of ram and 2500gb of storage, sorry if I sound like an idiot lol

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Hayırlı olsun kardeşim, dediğin gibi gerçekten 1k dolar olması beni de şaşırtmıştı. Hemde daha iyi ettin , oyun fiyatlarını da aldı başını gitti.

Console optimization. You go enjoy your shitty PC ports with stutters everywhere and broken optimization and not to mention denuvo while I pay 20 euro more on console but at least get a working product.