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somedudevt t1_jecjjta wrote

Vermonts numbers are heavily skewed by a high proportion of prison residents who are not Vermont residents. A large portion violent crime in the state is committed by people from surrounding states trafficking drugs. For instance Burlington had 5 murders last year, all 5 were committed by POC 3 against POC, and of the 5 committing the crime only 2 were a Vermont resident2. The others were from cities. A 4th one was a resident but only because they were on probation for a drug crime they committed in VT but came from Brooklyn.

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AstralDragon1979 t1_jece9c8 wrote

Presenting the federal prison data with the rest of the information on this graphic is misleading, and perpetuates the myth that prisons in the US are full of low level drug offenders.

The vast majority of prisoners in the US are incarcerated through state prison systems, which are omitted in your breakdown of federal prison inmates. Crimes like murder, rape, robbery, etc. are overwhelmingly handled through state justice systems. That’s why those violent offenses barely appear in your federal prisoner bar chart. About half of the prisoners in the US are incarcerated for violent offenses (murder, rape, etc), and about 14% are there for drug offenses. Also, at the federal level, the drug offenders are generally not people who were busted with a dime bag of cannabis, but rather guilty of more serious crimes like drug trafficking.

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Meanteenbirder t1_jec9xga wrote

Winooski has the only significant black population in the state. Is second whitest behind Maine, I think the state is like 94% white. Even UVM with a massive diversity push can only get to 15% non-white, and it’s been stagnant the past few years. Racism dominates the state more because of being around POC being so different for many than having a more-expected right-wing racism mindset.

Source: went to UVM from 2018-2022

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10xwannabe t1_jec9pfr wrote

OP,

Just a couple questions just to make sure I am understanding a few of these maps correct...

Are they saying that despite states with HIGH incarceration rates (Ex: LA, AR, MS) there are more whites being incarcerated in those states? If so that is interesting as the ratio is per 100,000 population of same race living there. So it takes into account disproportional number of sample sizes in the populations.

Also, any idea on the breakdown on the drug offenses that led the federal prison sentences? Are they distribution? Possession? Both? Are they marijuana? Are they more "hardcore" drugs, i.e. cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, ectacy, speed, etc...?

Thanks in advance.

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