Sure, they obviously want to - there's money in festivals - but that's not the point, previous poster made it look as if there were no open air festivals due to poor organisation of one that has happened many decades ago.

To inflate the lungs and create a breathing pattern to keep blood circulating and stop your brain from dying.

All the incentives are to just pursue whatever you're getting graded on, logic and the big picture be damned. Source: am former government employee.

Yup, that's the hardest part

And Ticketmaster runs a lot of those. ACL, the various Lollapaloozas, and some other festivals are produced by C3 Presents, which Live Nation, the parent company of Ticketmaster, owns a 51% stake in

That is true, but what would it take to pull off a boycott of that scale? I bet most people value entertainment now over the slight possibility of future change. How do you get so many people to go against their own self interest?

Because it is necessary to use the power of the majority. When a major event with an expected crowd of, for example, 100 thousand people will sell only 5 thousand tickets, then they will change.

It's the size of the venues. Very few large venues don't strictly use Ticketmaster, and the big acts are contractually obligated to perform at large scale for revenues for their management companies. For large venues, Ticketmaster has become basically a monopoly, but regulation efforts tend to focus on their surcharges and fees, rather than just how damn many venues they control. One of the biggest draws in the industry, U2, are performing concerts at a venue in Las Vegas this fall without their drummer, which is nuts for such a tight-knit band that have been together since they were teenagers, because he needs surgery and recovery time but they are contractually obligated through Ticketmaster/LiveNation to perform. They were managed for a decade by LiveNation/Ticketmaster until recently calling it quits, just because they couldn't stand the company anymore. But they are still bound to them for reserving exclusive venues and ticket sales, just because no one else operates at Ticketmaster/LiveNation's scale

That's asking people to never see a concert again, good luck. Better to call local politicians and tell them to break up the monopoly.

People don't really get how it actually works.

Companies don't pay politicians to change their beliefs, they find politicians who already agree with them and donate to their campaigns to get them elected.

So these congress people who voted with ticketmaster, they weren't bribed. They voted their conscience. It's just, companies like ticketmaster have spent decades elevating politicians whose "conscience" is incredibly pro-business.

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Agree but I haven’t been buying tix in protest and it looks to have no effect. It will take more than hoping people will boycott for things to change. The problem is so big it will require government intervention.

Good god the stench past the first day or two must be so horrifically strong you can practically see it, like that SpongeBob episode where he eats the nasty sandwich and gets the rancid breath

I can't comment on whether the behind close doors portrayals of them in TV and film is accurate, I can tell you they are competing for the same budget. The org that performs better naturally looks more attractive when it comes to allocating funding.

I'd like to introduce you to Pol'and'rock Festival. No ticket, no master, no ticketmaster. Even though it's a huge event they manage to keep it free of charge and that's just unbelievably amazing.

Don't fucking buy tickets. Concert goers are enabling the problem. Don't buy tickets. Starve the scalpers. Make Ticketmaster change, beg and plead for the privilege of earning your money in summer 2024.

Yep, they all sold out quickly and seemed to run well, so undoubtedly successful, but not many artists have the clout to do it.

9/10 times when someone says "not a fan of..." you are about to get the most biased opinion ever

On the height of their popularity Pearl Jam tried this, they even brought it to congress, and failed. Setting up your own venues costs a lot, most festivals loses money. They have exclusivity deals with all these venues too, that includes stadiums and other sport venues.

It's a shit show and everyone knows it, but everyone involved is making money so...

So basically the only way around it is for the stars to throw in and build their own network of music venues?

Boycott Ticketmaster. Fuck concerts. Hold out for a year and watch them change and beg for a fraction of the business back.

You have the power to slaughter Ticketmaster by literally doing nothing. Take one for the greater good, stay home, order some band merch and make the promoters and bands find the new solution.

Starve Ticketmaster and treat concert goers like rats that cross the union picket line. Do it for the next generation so that your kids can work part time and save up for a week to take a road trip to see their favourite band the way Hendrix and Cobain would have wanted it.

>And Ticketmaster would maybe stop arranging other concerts

Isnt this exactly what we'd want though??

And from all reports, it was a super successful and well run festival. Hopefully it sets a blueprint on how to go it alone

I understood that reference.