Oh, if I don’t like it I can ‘get out’ ? Fucking brilliant - well if you don’t like me complaining why don’t YOU just get out ? Everyone, who is unhappy about ANYthing can just GIT !! There’ll be no need for any kind of law or government or any state apparatus whatsoever - total anarchy, gangs raiding everything, shooting everyone who opposes them, fighting between themselves until just the most cunning and lucky ones settle into stalemates amidst their piles of fabulous trinkets. Yeh - and at any stage of this- if you don’t like it, you can just get out, and join various other silos of people who have just gotten out of other situations. To be honest, living amongst a load of people who’s whole identity is based around not linking things sounds terrible- I wouldn’t like that at all. So what would I do ? I’d just have to GET OUT again !! Ever onward, permanently unhappy with this or that little niggle - restlessly roaming the plains in fruitless quests for perfection until I withered and died.

They are super cool! I dropped off some paints to donate and walked through. It was hard to not leave with as much as I dropped off 🤣

I definitely agree there is a societal problem that needs fixing but that’s only part of it. Without guns a disturbed person is not able to go and shoot up a school or other public place and now down innocent people - they just can’t. In the 1950s there was not wide access and availability of assault style weapons. Other countries have managed to have strict gun laws and they work. Strict gun laws are not the same as ‘no gun laws’. The right to bear arms is a very dated statement that comes from a time where people had to defend their property for legitimate reasons that no longer exist today. Other countries have managed to have strict gun laws and they work. Strict gun laws are not the same as a ‘no gun law’. The fact that it might be difficult or that people wouldn’t like it is no reason to just throw up our arms and say it can’t be done. I’m sorry but civilians do not need AR-15s… you just don’t. These shootings that are happening in the US are often mass casualty events because of the ease of access to these types of weapons where the attacker does not have to stop and reload.

I was mostly referring to those who stink of tobacco so bad I can smell them from around the corner of the aisle in a store. I've never smelled anyone reeking of MJ that badly, but smell tobacco addicts all the time.

Our stupid as fuck city council seems to think that tobacco is ok for public consumption, but other odorous herbs are not. Because we are used to tobacco stench and not MJ's. And while we are at it all the assclowns littering their butts all over the place need to be cracked down on. Something I've not seen from MJ smokers. I'm tired of sweeping my parking lot in the morning and finding a ton of these. Nasty bastards leaving their trash all over.

And it occurred to me that MJ comes in none smoke varieties such as edibles and liquid forms that do not leave a stench. Are our numbskull city council banning those in public as well?

I’ve haven’t defended or advocated for anyone except myself. My one and only point has remained the same.

You started this whole thing with virtue signaling and insinuating I agreed with “the right”. This after I just said an argument could be made against every party and to “pay attention”.

You brought up the holocaust.

You associated it with “the right”.

You specifically brought up conservatives.

You claimed to have been one.

YOU explicitly associated “them” with Nazis.

YOU brought up accusations and affiliations.

YOU escalated every comment to force me onto a side.

YOU changed the goalposts.

The comments are all there. Read them.

I take issue with accusing one party of every evil and ail because every party has problems.

I repeat my argument ad nauseum because you only acknowledge it long enough to put words in my mouth and argue something else.

I will not address your “points” because they are irrelevant self serving arguments you make against yourself. They have nothing to do with me or my original point.

But feel free to continue denying reality to exhaustion.

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What about ELS construction? I’ve seen them a few times but not heard anything.

It isn't. This ordinance is a nothing burger to appease the picket fence pearl clutchers.

There's a Roy Blunt joke in there somewhere, but I'm not baked enough to find it.

It's like this pretty much everywhere. I got tired of rolling the dice so I dropped $30 on a cheap portable air compressor. Just make sure to keep it charged!

OK … so let me ask you a few “simple” questions.

1. We have roughly the same number of guns, per capita, now that we had in the 1950’s. Why is gun violence so much more prevalent now than it was then?

2. How ‘exactly’ would you get rid of the guns? Even if you could get past the legal and constitutional issues, you still have somewhere around 400 million guns in America. How are you going to round up and take those weapons from 150 million people who are not going to be exactly “happy” about giving them up?

Assuming you still support the rest of the Constitution, just not the 2nd Amendment, to so it legally would require judges to write warrants, and law enforcement to execute searches and seizures. This would either require tens of thousands of additional judges and LEO’s, or it would clog the system for decades.

3. Even if you somehow got past all the legal, Constitutional, and logistical obstacles of confiscating guns, you would still have at least 100 million or more, now illegal guns in circulation. Criminals, by definition, don’t tend to follow laws.

So end the end, what would this do to help prevent gun violence? It’s very easy to fall into the “Do Something!” mentality when we see tragedy like this. But I have yet to hear a single person than can offer a logical explanation of how any form of sweeping gun control could be carried out, nor can they explain how it actually prevent a bad person from doing bad things.

The simple cliche “if you take away the guns, only criminals will have them” really is true.

We need to fix our broken society. We need to stop hating each other. We need to teach our kids to respect each other, respect the laws, and to value life.

Do you mind giving a few examples? I'm just curious, I watch a lot of inspection tiktoks also, lol.

That’s what I get then for not keeping up with Basketball

Glad they didn't, maybe they were too high to realize what they had, I bought a bar to secure my steering wheel as well

Favorite so far. "Let's be blunt, don't drive high"

I’m not turning you into a villain- this isn’t even about you. This entire reply is so ironic: you are telling me what I’M doing now. But what I’m really trying to do is point out a truth- that people on both sides openly talk about these things. And the easier ones to convince are republicans. Neither are good, but one is being targeted by extremists right now especially. Why do you think all these rice bag opinions align with conservative talking points?

Also your description of my words being demonization of conservatives only is ironic alongside all these accusations of fallacies- I’ve said time and time again both sides are authoritarian. Both sides can be more libertarian. I also never once generalized all conservatives or said that they WERE N-zis, but you’re claiming I did (“evidenced by your claims that ‘they all agreed’ with the evil that was the Nazis”). My point is that YOU should not be here trying to defend conservative opinion when these rice bags in the posts are preying on conservative ideology. If you disagree, explain why. You’re the one telling people to listen to conservatives and hear them out.

Essentially, I have always said don’t listen to the parties. You were first to suggest listening to conservatives

You keep repeating your point without addressing any of mine. I keep addressing your repeats and it is becoming tiring. I don’t want to be accused of another fallacy after this, no one cares because this is a reddit comment section and I never wanted to professionally debate you. I wanted to share my perspective like you suggested people should do (and you suggested people should listen.) But I suppose it’s only certain people and certain opinions?

Please reply to the bolded part of this message specifically if you’re going to reply.

Right, my point is yours now. So what have you been arguing this whole time?

Don’t lie to yourself. This is a browbeating. Your whole purpose, by all appearances, is to destroy an opinion you are creating from whole cloth and assigning to me.

Your ability to gaslight, strawman, project, twist, and obfuscate to win whatever argument you think you’re having is astounding.

Quit trying to turn people into villains to be defeated for the sake of your own hubris.

The subjective perspective you’re peddling is “the conservatives are the problem”, as evidenced by your claims that “they all agree” with the evil that was the nazis. And the basis for your claim is one person speaking for himself and calling it “conservatism”.

My point, from the very beginning, has been every party has problems. Which you begrudgingly admitted before resuming the vitriolic conservative-are-nazis diatribe.

And then you turn and accuse me of defending your conservatives and “denying reality” because I won’t agree a single party is as bad as the nazis.

You want some reality?

“It’s the (political/ideological group)! They’re the problem! They support (any inhumanly evil historical character/event)!” Translated, copied, pasted. Can be found preceding every genocide and the majority of military aggression in recorded history.

It’s the argument being used to justify Russian aggression in Ukraine today.

Sound familiar?

You sound like a mean person

I mostly agree. Not trying to label anyone. I try not to judge a book by the cover, although that’s generally the first thing you see. I deplore bad BO equally to ashtray funk. I’m sure some people are doing their best, but others could put in a little more effort.

We absolutely have a gun problem look at Canada and certain European countries that have strict gun laws crime is lower shootings in schools are rare. It is 100% possible to reduce access to guns if a person can’t access a gun they can’t go into a school and kill a bunch of people. You sound like an NRA spokesperson.

Mexico is not a good example… maybe Canada or some European countries where yes they have strict gun laws and school shootings are rare. Clearly written by someone with no kids in school as moving to another country to avoid the fear of your kid getting killed in a school shooting is ridiculous as a solution. This belief that you “need” a gun to protect yourself is ludicrous like what do people think they are protecting themselves from? And why do you need an assault style weapon for that? Those weapons aren’t for hunting or for protecting one person they are made to kill many in seconds and the ease with which people can obtain them and get ammunition in the US is a major major problem.

I am talking about the “smelly” people OP is talking about, not people smoking in public. I agree that smoking in a public place shouldn’t happen for either substance. That’s why I began this with “I agree with your sentiment.”

What I disagree with is labeling anyone who smells like weed “addicts.” Also if you’re judging how people smell, you’re going to find lots of different things to be bothered by. Many people don’t smell great and that’s ok, we do our best.

I’m all for freedom in your own space, but when sharing public space, we could all be more considerate of others noses and lungs. Too much perfume could trigger some to have an allergic reaction.

Id like to take this opportunity to quote the EPA, when a complaint was made about a farmer contaminating our air with pesticides. “We’ll, it’s like chopping an onion. You smell the onion, but you aren’t eating the onion.”

I support the fake calls, tbh. Kids still get treated like they're ignorant and without a voice. I feel like they're scared and tired of not being seen at this point and doing what they know works. Like this thread for example, got people talking and asking questions on their behalf.

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