dgroach27

dgroach27 t1_is1jzxq wrote

Except the people that Fox News bashes want healthcare for people and workers rights and the people that CNN bash put bounties on people who get abortions, want to limit voting, and spout off about replacement theory. I agree CNN sucks (probably for different reasons than you) but you just can't equate the people that those networks bash. Like, Bernie Sanders and AOC are not as bad as Tucker Carlson and Ron DeSantis. If you think so, sorry but your brain is broken.

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dgroach27 t1_is1h532 wrote

Yeah it's definitely the people who want universal healthcare that are the problem and not the one's who are ok with bounty on people who get abortions. I'm not willing to compromise with republicans because that will only result in minorities and the disadvantaged getting hurt. If you are, well, that's on you. I think democrats need to grow a backbone and actually push back against republicans the way that they have been forever. Had a filibuster proof majority and didn't codify Roe, have control of Congress and the White House and have barely done anything outside of the recent student loan forgiveness and weed stuff, how much more inaction and mediocrity do you want from them? Who are these "zealots" on the left that are causing so much division?

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dgroach27 t1_is1dnot wrote

It's hardly an assumption. It doesn't always feel like it but living in this country is a privilege and your views are certainly shaped by living here.

Frankly, I don't care if some privileged centrist thinks my message is weakened by my "assumptions". Complaining about that tells me that you don't really have a good response.

Answer me this, republicans (and many democrats) didn't want gay people to have the ability to get married. What is the give and take with that? Only married sometimes?

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dgroach27 t1_is12mig wrote

>When the government pays for your health care

That is removing consumers from the private healthcare economy while not maximizing profit. Not very capitalist.

>When the government makes it illegal to own private property

Not socialism.

>When the government raises your taxes to spend more on welfare programs

Higher taxes means less money to spend in the capitalist market and welfare programs allow people to get services that aren't being maximized for profit. Not very capitalist.

>When people say they want to "capitalism is the problem" often what they are really thinking is that the government should provision more services. What they want is universal healthcare or increased spending on other social programs. But that's not in any sense anti-capitalist. That's just taxing economic activity to pay for the social programs you want.

People are wanting universal healthcare because due to the capitalist market abusing consumers with insane prices. They know people need insurance so they know they can get away with charging what they do for it. Classic example of capitalism being the problem.

Having workers have more control over the means of production is what, at its most simplest, what socialism is.

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dgroach27 t1_is0s9ic wrote

I can understand how you thought that I was saying Denmark wasn't capitalist, that was not my intention. I was stating Denmark handles houseless people well. Then separately I was stating that capitalism is not designed to deal with houselessness.

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dgroach27 t1_is0n5ao wrote

The left has been giving for decades and right has basically been doing whatever they want, let's be real. The second you take the your foot off the gas of progress there are immediately steps back. So no the solution isn't moderate democrats and moderate republicans where there will be "give and take" but at the end of the day they're basically the same. Take off your privilege glasses and look at the country, does it really seem like moderate, nondistruptive policies are going to help?

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