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nuncio_populi OP t1_jdj0150 wrote
Reply to comment by jersey-city-park in The Campaign for Eminent Domain: A Petition for the State of NJ to Acquire Fireman's Golf Course to Expand Liberty State Park by nuncio_populi
Fireman says he wants more recreational opportunities for the community. Why would he fight this?
Heck, you’re right, he should donate the land!
nuncio_populi t1_jdg5kt0 wrote
Reply to comment by Byzantium-1204 in Irony - a visual definition. by EyesOnImprovement
Did you see the latest bit about a film crew being there to take statements from high school players? You’re telling me that they didn’t coordinate this with People’s Park at all?
nuncio_populi t1_jdg5bel wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Irony - a visual definition. by EyesOnImprovement
Yeah. Curious to hear the brewery’s response to this bit of information.
It’s all bullshit.
nuncio_populi t1_jdg57ig wrote
Reply to comment by mooseLimbsCatLicks in Irony - a visual definition. by EyesOnImprovement
We should tell them there’s still some baby seals that need clubbing in Antarctica.
nuncio_populi t1_jdg53fn wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Irony - a visual definition. by EyesOnImprovement
Outside the 0.1%
Let’s be real. This is the elite of the elite we’re talking about here.
nuncio_populi t1_jde7xj9 wrote
I encourage everyone to go to 902 tonight. Don’t buy a single drink but make your voices heard.
Let the fraudsters at People’s Park know what the people of Jersey City think of their astroturf campaign to try and takeaway one of our great open spaces.
nuncio_populi t1_jde7ni3 wrote
Reply to Irony - a visual definition. by EyesOnImprovement
I warned this sub a few weeks ago that the astroturf campaign was starting up again. It’s here in full swing.
Get organized. Write your representatives. Hell, go to 902 tonight and make your voices heard.
Show the People’s Park fraudsters what the people of Jersey City really think.
nuncio_populi t1_jddv55q wrote
Reply to comment by BrewedInJerseyCity in 902 Brewing to host Paul Fireman backed event by el_tigrox
You’re hosting a group whose “cry-baby campaign” and lobbying forced a state agency to delay a big reveal on redevelopment plans that would have helped our community and protect our park from private development.
We’re allowed to be upset at you for hosting them on the day those plans were supposed to be released. This is a topic that matters to the community you operate your business in.
If you can’t take a little heat, get outta the kitchen.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jczzkud wrote
Reply to comment by davebozo in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
Sure. Copying this from a response I gave on a different thread. See below:
Last year, the state legislature passed a $100 million act to fund Liberty State Park. There are two competing visions for the land:
The original plan calls for wetland, woodland, and grassland restoration to create wildlife habitat and scenic, passive recreation for all visitors to the park plus an additional sixty acres of sporting facilities, active recreational fields open, and a cultural center – all open to the public. The park also lies in a flood plain so habitat restoration will actually add a buffer to protect low-lying neighboring communities, particularly parts of Jersey City — Greenville, Bergen-Lafayette, and Downtown. You can see an older version of the state's plan here.
The alternative plan is promoted by the People's Park Foundation, which is funded by billionaire golf course owner Paul Fireman. This plan calls for the park to be turned into concert venues with multiple stadiums to be built and concession vendors spread throughout to "generate revenue." Predecessors to the overdevelopment plan have called for a new marina for yachts (conveniently located by Fireman's golf course) and, in the past, an outlandish formula-1 racetrack.
For context, Fireman has long coveted an environmentally sensitive portion of Liberty State Park called Caven Point to expand his golf course. His People's Park Foundation has been running a campaign in the op.ed section of NJ.com for the last year either claiming that the first plan does not exist or grossly underselling the state's vision for the park. They try and conflate opposition to their plan with the false idea that the state wants to abandon Liberty State Park.
Edit: Added in the links.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcwps23 wrote
Reply to comment by objectimpermanence in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
I’ll say it again louder for those who willfully refuse to hear: THE STATE DEP PLAN INCLUDES 60 ACRES FOR SPORTS.
The People’s Park plan is a gross overdevelopment of the park that would pave over large open spaces to put up closed-off stadiums and concert venues. Not even Central Park has anything comparable to what Fireman’s cronies want to put up.
Also, what a bad take: A park goer doesn’t have to be an environmentalist or bird watcher to enjoy nature. A state park is supposed to be a resource to enjoy being outdoors; it’s not supposed to be Disney Land.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcvjxu2 wrote
Reply to comment by mooseLimbsCatLicks in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
It's some serious horseshit. You literally have the NJ Turnpike expansion plan through Greenville's backyard but, no, the real environmental injustice would be not letting a billionaire build a stadium, concert venue, and expand his golf course on public land.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcvf94t wrote
Reply to comment by ffejie in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
Great point. You know – if Fireman really cared that much about the welfare of our children, he could donate his golf course to build these plans. I don't know why his foundation needs the state's land.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcvf1sx wrote
Reply to comment by StoryofTheGhost33 in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
I keep calling out these pieces every time I see them because I want to make sure we all stay engaged. He and his "foundation" are trying so hard to get their private development. For the sake of my children, I do not want to see that happen.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcveul8 wrote
Reply to comment by nervousopposum in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
I have half a mind to write to NJ.com myself to call them out for this nonsense but I know they won't publish it.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcv6kj2 wrote
Reply to comment by Irish-Bronx in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
I give Fireman credit. It's a clever gambit to get a local NAACP leader call an actual community-based and state-led redevelopment effort racist in order to keep the door open for a private developer to do his shady deals.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcv6bv8 wrote
Reply to comment by uieLouAy in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
Who needs real friends when you can just buy people to say nice things about your ideas, am I right?
nuncio_populi OP t1_jcv67u3 wrote
Reply to comment by GoHuskies1984 in NJ.com Needs to Stop Publishing Misinformation about LSP by nuncio_populi
Well, that's the lie, right? Richard Smith claims that those of us who oppose the People Park plans also oppose any work being done in the park, and that simply isn't true.
If what the state has indicated is true, we're going to be getting some nice ball fields, restored wildlife habitat, and miles and miles of new trails because they'll have remediated the contaminated interior.
Submitted by nuncio_populi t3_11vu7co in jerseycity
nuncio_populi t1_jcpwucg wrote
Reply to comment by EyesOnImprovement in Jersey City awarded $12 million more for Team Fulop Vacation Fund in Murphy’s budget proposal by EyesOnImprovement
Get better at telling jokes then, you witless prot.
nuncio_populi t1_jcpqshq wrote
Reply to Jersey City awarded $12 million more for Team Fulop Vacation Fund in Murphy’s budget proposal by EyesOnImprovement
Just so we can all skip the faux outrage because the title conflates two separate stories — What the article actually says is that the State of NJ also supports the Pompidou museum coming to Jersey City because they view it as an anchor in the redevelopment of Journal Square.
If you are concerned about who funded the mayor's trip, that's a very valid issue and should be discussed. But it deserves its own articles and threads.
There just isn't any need to stir up outrage over routine state funding for the arts that is unrelated to Fulop's jaunt to Paris.
nuncio_populi t1_jclp0fr wrote
Reply to comment by Anonymous1985388 in DEP chief says no privatization of Liberty State Park, "period, full stop." by mikevago
What are you going on about? Downtown has a ton of old buildings in Paulus Hook, Van Vorst, Harsimus Cove, and Hamilton Park.
nuncio_populi t1_jckfh5e wrote
Reply to comment by mikevago in DEP chief says no privatization of Liberty State Park, "period, full stop." by mikevago
The head of the DEP is a political appointee who reports to the governor. He can definitely overrule the commissioner.
Submitted by nuncio_populi t3_11n4ixh in jerseycity
nuncio_populi OP t1_jdj4ltr wrote
Reply to comment by surrendertomychill in The Campaign for Eminent Domain: A Petition for the State of NJ to Acquire Fireman's Golf Course to Expand Liberty State Park by nuncio_populi
Sign the petition! Let’s find out!