On my way to my car this morning I saw an FBI police car pulling over a car with expired tags-which I found interesting since Chinatown Park is exactly near FBI facilities, but if MPD/DC won’t take care of the issue-then at least the FBI police will! I guess FBI police have jurisdiction now over by Chinatown too? The driver must have shat themselves when the cop wearing FBI police gear walked to their window!

The map attached to this MOU between MPD and FBI police doesn’t appear to include the area of the stop. https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/cooperative-agreement-federal-bureau-investigation-police-and-mpdc

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CombyMcBeardz t1_jec1k4w wrote on March 30, 2023 at 10:30 PM

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The FBI's MOU was slightly expanded in 2012 per the map on the bottom of the page you shared: https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/publication/attachments/fbi_expanded_jurisdiction_boundary.pdf

If the original traffic infraction occurred within the boundaries and the FBI Police witnessed it, the actual location of the stop doesn't really matter. It's likely the person that was pulled over did something egregious the block or so just before and an FBI Police Officer witnessed it and pulled them over as they crossed the invisible jurisdiction line.

angelaswiener t1_jec6tl4 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 11:07 PM

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I got pulled over by FBI for expired tags once. It was kinda weird because the officer was really nice. She apologized for pulling me over, said ‘they’re making us do this now’ and made some friendly small talk. I thought she was going to let me off but I still got a ticket.

drr71-2 t1_jec6xgs wrote on March 30, 2023 at 11:08 PM

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I've seen MPD doing traffic enforcement plenty of times... way more than FBI police.

Dcafly13 OP t1_jec8ibh wrote on March 30, 2023 at 11:19 PM

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Replying to angelaswiener (#2,505,057)

What part of this/how long ago? Did they start the convo about their jurisdiction?

Dcafly13 OP t1_jec9gwb wrote on March 30, 2023 at 11:26 PM

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Replying to CombyMcBeardz (#2,503,804)

It was at I and 6th St NW. So not within bounds of the expanded map. The police car and the motorist were driving towards 5th. So they likely didn’t spot it from their jurisdiction boundary per the map.

angelaswiener t1_jeca845 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 11:32 PM

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Replying to Dcafly13 (#2,505,510)

It was a long time ago. Probably around ‘07 or ’08. They didn’t say anything about jurisdiction but I was on 9th right by the Hoover building.

keyjan t1_jecclqc wrote on March 30, 2023 at 11:49 PM

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Replying to Dcafly13 (#2,505,742)

🤷‍♀️ D.C. field office is at 3d and G, so not too far away.

gator_fl t1_jechnlh wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:26 AM

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Just wild that they are doing that these days when even a decade ago, they'd act like they didn't know there was a brothel a block from FBI HQ, three blocks from the White House and parts of Gallery Place Chinatown. It took anti-trafficking orgs pestering LEO to close them down.

To their credit, they always seem to show up quicker than DC MPD when shots fired or somebody hurt. Seemed to be the quickest first responder agency (shit, even DC and Federal Protective Services would show up before DC MPD).

gator_fl t1_jecirwj wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:34 AM

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Replying to keyjan (#2,506,526)

4th and F St NW.

keyjan t1_jecivvn wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:35 AM

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Replying to gator_fl (#2,508,136)

It takes up the whole block. 🙂

gator_fl t1_jecjjsh wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:40 AM

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Replying to keyjan (#2,508,163)

Indeed it does. I get chills when I'm right next to it...scary and lifeless building (you know, windows and protective barriers up a couple of floors) with those strange looking antennaes.

keyjan t1_jeck034 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:44 AM

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Replying to gator_fl (#2,508,340)

I like all the antennas on the roof. 📡📡

gator_fl t1_jeckv1i wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:50 AM

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Replying to keyjan (#2,508,454)

Heh! I like the technology behind it, but that's one of the things that gives me the creeps. I don't know why....maybe cause it's like what we imagine villain forts are (not hating FBI at all, just the science fiction ominous villain fort look).

CombyMcBeardz t1_jecpulb wrote on March 31, 2023 at 1:28 AM

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Replying to Dcafly13 (#2,505,742)

It is entirely possible the MOU has been changed again but not posted on the website. The FBI Police operate under the authority granted by the Federal Protective Service, and their MOU/MOA states they have expanded jurisdiction within 300 feet of any federal property.

Another possibility is that the vehicle committed a traffic offense that raises it above a citation into criminal territory. If that's the case, Federal Law Enforcement Officers may choose to use the Assimilative Crimes Act to stop a person or vehicle and effect an arrest for an equivalent State (or in this case District) crime and have it tried in Federal Court.

iidesune t1_jecriu1 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 1:41 AM

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The FBI has, or at least at one point had, a facility in Chinatown.

sprint113 t1_jegy8g3 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 11:03 PM

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There is a bit ambiguous wording in the description of the jurisdiction, that states they can operate in the area "immediately surrounding" the listed jurisdiction